FRS Ignition Key

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

I get to the car, I grab the door handle to open the door, the car unlocks the second it feels skin touch the inside of the doorhandle and allows me into the car. There's one motion; pulling the door handle. And there is no button on my RX350. The on the outside of the doorhandle towards the front, where you don't normally touch, there is an indentation that is also touch sensitive. I tap there as I leave the car and the car is locked.

The button on the door of say, an IS350, which is not hard to find as it's always at the rear of the door handle and feels like rubber as opposed to plastic, is only for locking the door.

That is how Lexus keys work. The other manufacturers that force you to press the button for entry are doing it wrong.

Right! With my keyless go system it's all one smooth motion. Nothing gets interupted by looking for a key, turning a key or any other motion other than opening the door and pressing the start button. This goes for dismounting the vehicle too. I just press the engine stop button and walk away from the car. Everything is done for me. Why wouldn't anyone want that kind of convenience? But, everyone has a right to their own preference.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by slizoth

Thanks, this is good info. I see now that Smart Entry and Remote Engine Starter are two different things. Warming up an engine while it idles in most vehicles is recommended, so is cooling it down by letting it idle before you shut the engine off. I like smart entry, I'd also like remote start, unfortunately if they are two different things instead of one Im a little disappointed.

That is so false. The best way to warm-up an engine is to drive it. Idling modern cars on cold start will not warm up the engine sufficiently fast, wastes gas, and causes wear. And when I say drive, I mean low RPM range until the oil temperature is sufficiently high enough...which happens faster from driving rather than idling.

[nixeighty6]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Don't get me wrong, I love new techology, my career is based on innovation.

and you make statements like

Originally Posted by RRnold

another reason to make you even more lazier.

did you learn to condescend innovative technology in your career?


just messing with you..

[nixeighty6]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

That is so false. The best way to warm-up an engine is to drive it. Idling modern cars on cold start will not warm up the engine sufficiently fast, wastes gas, and causes wear. And when I say drive, I mean low RPM range until the oil temperature is sufficiently high enough...which happens faster from driving rather than idling.

thank you.. people should stop spreading false information. there is tons of info on warming up cars. here is just one

http://green.yahoo.com/blog/daily_gr...in-winter.html

[ft86Fan]

Originally Posted by Kunzite

Hacked via a text message? How on Earth is that possible?

Maybe the text message was "Open Sesame"?

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

Maybe the text message was "Open Sesame"?

LMAO

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by nixeighty6

and you make statements like

did you learn to condescend innovative technology in your career?


just messing with you..

IMHO, when it comes to cars, there are some things that should be kept traditional. All of those convenience features like push start, individual heated seats, auto climate control, electronic traction control, automatic transmission, rain sensing windshield wipers, back up camera/sensors are all foofoo shit.

If it was available in the US, I would want a Race Spec, barebones model. Most of these extra features are options for reason; some people might not like certain options b/c of the increase of price and it's good to have be able to have a choice too.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I honestly don't get these types of statements regarding the keyless go function. These devicese have the possibility to fail just like any other device on the car. Such as the smart key fobs (if a physical key is used) or anything else on the car. To say that you don't want an option on the car because the possibility it will fail it just plain dumb. I understand if you say that you prefer not to have the option, but come on...

This discussion about these options are getting ridiculous IMHO...

That was exactly my point...ONE MORE thing to fix.

[KevinDuMa]

Sighhh another thread about push start? I don't care for either a key or push start doesn't really make that big of a difference. But seriously push start is just something else to fix? You shouldn't have to fix anything as long as you maintain and take care of your car. That's just making up a bitter reason to not like it.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by Kunzite

Hacked via a text message? How on Earth is that possible?

Obviously they don't go into to details, but here's the general information:

Hackers break into Subaru Outback via text message

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Sighhh another thread about push start? I don't care for either a key or push start doesn't really make that big of a difference. But seriously push start is just something else to fix? You shouldn't have to fix anything as long as you maintain and take care of your car. That's just making up a bitter reason to not like it.

Don't be absurd, odd things break all the time on vehicles. I maintain my current car but that didn't stop the rear wiper fluid hose from getting disconnected up inside the headliner through no fault of my own.

I guess I should have paid for that expensive preventative maintenance schedule, surely they would have noticed it becoming loose

Yes, it most certainly is something else to fix. Anything electronic most likely will require maintenance after many years. Some of us actually intend to keep the vehicle for well over 5 years. Power windows don't last as long as roll-ups, power antennas also break significantly sooner than non moving ones, power locks break more often than non-powered locks...the list goes on and on.

You must not have owned many vehicles in your time, or didn't keep them long enough to experience these problems. Your reply is ridiculous.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

I get to the car, I grab the door handle to open the door, the car unlocks the second it feels skin touch the inside of the doorhandle and allows me into the car. There's one motion; pulling the door handle. And there is no button on my RX350. The on the outside of the doorhandle towards the front, where you don't normally touch, there is an indentation that is also touch sensitive. I tap there as I leave the car and the car is locked.

The button on the door of say, an IS350, which is not hard to find as it's always at the rear of the door handle and feels like rubber as opposed to plastic, is only for locking the door.

That is how Lexus keys work. The other manufacturers that force you to press the button for entry are doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Then go build yourself a Locost and leave the modern street cars that people would actually want to drive every day to the rest of us.

Really, you're gonna talk shit when you don't even know how your Lexus key works!


My girl n I went out for sushi tonight and on her '08 IS250 you don't even have to touch the door handle for it to unlock. As soon as you get with several inches from the door, the courtesy lights all come on and the door unlocks. She had a slight fail though as soon as we got in b/c she put her purse behind her in the back seat, kind of underneath the drivers seat and it must have been blocked by the seat or by all of her junk in her purse b/c it didn't start at first, the LED light was orange instead of green. Once she got her purse and put it on the passenger floor she started it right up.

[KevinDuMa]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

Don't be absurd, odd things break all the time on vehicles. I maintain my current car but that didn't stop the rear wiper fluid hose from getting disconnected up inside the headliner through no fault of my own.

I guess I should have paid for that expensive preventative maintenance schedule, surely they would have noticed it becoming loose

Yes, it most certainly is something else to fix. Anything electronic most likely will require maintenance after many years. Some of us actually intend to keep the vehicle for well over 5 years. Power windows don't last as long as roll-ups, power antennas also break significantly sooner than non moving ones, power locks break more often than non-powered locks...the list goes on and on.

You must not have owned many vehicles in your time, or didn't keep them long enough to experience these problems. Your reply is ridiculous.

Seriously? I'm 24 and I've owned 5 vehicles so don't talk like you know me. If you don't like the push start just say so otherwise why don't you tell us you don't like digital tachometers, automatic door locks, air conditioning, windshield wipers, HIDS, etc. The list goes on on what can potentially fail but does it happen to everyone? No. I have several friends that have the push to start on their car, one of them owns a 2008 Lexus is250, is it still working? Like the day he bought it. My cousin has a 2009 370z and any source of problems with his? No. You are obviously purely hating on something just because you don't like it, and if you don't that's fine but saying you don't want it because it's gonna "break" or "mess up" doesn't make sense. If you look at all of Nissan and Lexus' and even Hyundai's line up most of their cars don't even have a traditional key anymore so if it's so "prone to electronically fail" why would they even bother with it? Take a chill pill guy no one's dying over this. You sound like you're just bitter towards new technology. Power antennas? When was the last time they even made a car with that and seriously roll up windows? We're not in the 90s anymore...do you still see these items on a car? Back when power windows and automatic lights were created I'm sure there were probably people just like you that didn't like it because they thought it could have potential failure and just something else to fix but overtime it's what's going to be standard on every car eventually. Hate it or love it.

[statuskuo]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Push start is not a passing fad. Its implementation by carmakers is only increasing; it's only a matter of time til it completely phases out the traditional turnkey.

It'll be an option so non-forward thinkers can opt out if they don't want to get with the times.

Couldn't have said it better myself