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Old 08-18-2013, 04:26 PM   #253
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That quoted 10% price increase is fairly significant.

The Mustang is already getting pretty pricey; and while present rebates make it somewhat more reasonable, those are only so high right now because so much of the market is waiting for the new one. A well-optioned GT with track package is $42,000. 10% more pushes it well north of $45,000, and there won't by any rebates on that for a while. That's a friggin' ton of money for a Mustang.

You can damn near buy TWO of the Twins for that much.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #254
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That would make the V8 GT500 even better. It's a great deal price compare to the over price M3 .
Just need to upgrade all the suspensions parts and call it good.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #255
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You can damn near buy TWO of the Twins for that much.
Well good. Then you'll have as much horsepower as one Mustang.

And damn, for the price of one FRS or BRZ you could have TWO Nissan Versas! Or one Versa and a Mazda2!

Cars are getting more and more expensive. It sucks, but that's just how it is. The price vs performance is still better than just about anything in that range, though.
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:39 PM   #256
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This car needed to lose a ton of weight. 400lbs is a good start. I am definitely watching this one. Could be a great car. Just leave the horrible Mytouch/Sync crap off the car..
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:09 PM   #257
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A ~3100lb performance version will be formidable. It'll be sub-3000# w/ weight saving mods & low fuel levels.

If some of the rumors are true (especially the 5.4L flat-plane crank V8 w/ ~600 n/a HP), look out... I'd actually consider one myself--and I'm not a Ford guy.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:32 PM   #258
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I am not interested in the V8 since this would be a daily driver. The fuel economy in the V8 (assuming you drive it aggresively, which I would) would net me about 18-20mpg, whereas I am getting close to 27mpg now in my BRZ with a 40 mile commute each day (20 each way).

Unfortunately, most of the rumors point to the turbo 4cyl being only for Europe and we would get the V6/V8 here...
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:27 PM   #259
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Well good. Then you'll have as much horsepower as one Mustang.
LOL. Touche'

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Cars are getting more and more expensive. It sucks, but that's just how it is. The price vs performance is still better than just about anything in that range, though.
If it is indeed in the $46K range for a nicely-equipped GT, I'm not so sure it's quite the bargain any longer.

Probably the best example is that it cuts the price difference between a nice GT and a Corvette in half. With only a ~$5,000 difference before one steps into a base Corvette, that becomes a real possibility.
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If it is indeed in the $46K range for a nicely-equipped GT, I'm not so sure it's quite the bargain any longer.

Probably the best example is that it cuts the price difference between a nice GT and a Corvette in half. With only a ~$5,000 difference before one steps into a base Corvette, that becomes a real possibility.
Nice is subjective though. Some people would be perfectly happy with a base GT. Some want it fully optioned. Same goes for the Vette. Sure there will be buyers at the base 50k, but surely it can be optioned into the mid 70s as well.
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:12 AM   #261
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I am not interested in the V8 since this would be a daily driver. The fuel economy in the V8 (assuming you drive it aggresively, which I would) would net me about 18-20mpg, whereas I am getting close to 27mpg now in my BRZ with a 40 mile commute each day (20 each way).

Unfortunately, most of the rumors point to the turbo 4cyl being only for Europe and we would get the V6/V8 here...
People with GT's here are getting mid to high 20's on the highway on the current platform. Though we don't have to deal with stop and go traffic in my neck of the woods. The new Mustang might be the only thing that would make me get a twinge of buyers remorse over the FR-S. But I like classic Mustangs better anyways.
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People with GT's here are getting mid to high 20's on the highway on the current platform. Though we don't have to deal with stop and go traffic in my neck of the woods. The new Mustang might be the only thing that would make me get a twinge of buyers remorse over the FR-S. But I like classic Mustangs better anyways.
In California, we don't really have to deal with free flowing traffic, so there is a bit of a problem with having a giant engine even if they squeezed an auto start stop system in :P On a bad day the clutch is engaged only half the time I'm driving.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:32 AM   #263
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I would love a 400 lb lighter 3.7V6 version or a 2.0T stang.

Let's see here!

3,025 lbs
2.0T=280hp/275tq range
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10% hike on the base = $24,999
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:22 AM   #264
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I would love a 400 lb lighter 3.7V6 version or a 2.0T stang.

Let's see here!

3,025 lbs
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10% hike on the base = $24,999
The Turbo is going to be a 2.5T, and Ford has said that it'll cost nearly as much as the V8 (with better economy as the selling point, like what Ford does with its EcoBoost trucks), which will push it closer to $35K than $25K.
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Nice is subjective though. Some people would be perfectly happy with a base GT. Some want it fully optioned. Same goes for the Vette. Sure there will be buyers at the base 50k, but surely it can be optioned into the mid 70s as well.
Right about the Vette - for a track-worthy version, you at least want to add the Z51 package (bigger wheels, brakes, trans and oil coolers, e-diff, etc) plus the magnetic selective ride control shocks and maybe the performance exhaust - you are getting into the upper 50s. Then maybe the 2LT trim package for the HUD - another $3-4k.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:07 PM   #266
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Cool Next gen MUSTANG revealed with full frontal nude :)

Looks pretty slick. Just like the evo concept model.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797
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