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Old 08-16-2013, 03:30 PM   #183
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why do it aftermarket, when you can do it with OEM/ warranty?

I also live in SoCal (LA), I love my butt warmer. Cold socal nights, windows down to feel cool air, turn on butt warmer to keep my body warm enough.

Dual Climate control? I sure do use them.

even if i didn't need dual climate control.. the center console looks much better than the regular AC control panel

The console I'll give you. As for aftermarket things I have nothing against installing it yourself and almost prefer it since it's cheaper and for me at least gives me a sense of satisfaction (it's a hobby). Butt warmer can be nice but wasn't a factor for me to consider, I've used it only a handful of times on my previous car but to each his own.

I don't understand the appeal in dual climate control, is your passenger freezing while you are burning or do they just prefer the few degree differences and don't want to turn their ac vents a few degrees? Not being sarcastic btw I really don't understand the point especially in a tiny car like ours.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:34 PM   #184
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Dual climate may be useless... but damn does it make the interior look so much better...

You are a prime example of the people I mostly hate for even suggesting installing a 30 dollar plug and play HID kit... you must not know what headlight cutoffs are and just blind every oncoming driver with your crap HID's

And a proper retrofit will run you about 300 bucks, not including all the necessary modifications required to make them properly fit the headlight.
I understand where you are coming from but the difference is extremely slight. I've compared the halo glare from my plug and play kit with my brothers g35 using the stock HIDs and the difference was minor. Cutoff is hardly clean but definitely isn't blinding.

But to stick to the topic even someone were to pay 300 dollars for a proper retrofit I would still consider that a bargain to the 3000 dollar whole package upgrade. In the end it's really how valuable you consider the extra goodies are.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:50 PM   #185
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The console I'll give you. As for aftermarket things I have nothing against installing it yourself and almost prefer it since it's cheaper and for me at least gives me a sense of satisfaction (it's a hobby). Butt warmer can be nice but wasn't a factor for me to consider, I've used it only a handful of times on my previous car but to each his own.

I don't understand the appeal in dual climate control, is your passenger freezing while you are burning or do they just prefer the few degree differences and don't want to turn their ac vents a few degrees? Not being sarcastic btw I really don't understand the point especially in a tiny car like ours.

I use the seat heaters all the time, love late night cruise with windows down and seat heaters on high.

In order to understand the climate control desires you must put a woman in the passenger seat, or take long trips in the car. Women always seem to want to be warmer than men, it's like the never ending blanket struggle.

As for your complete lack of appreciation of the differences in OEM engineered HID lighting VS some crap ignitors you buy off E-bay, and the hazard it adds to your car having them installed in a housing not rated for the heat, running them on a circuit potentially incapable of carrying the load, and the fact that it is not an approved modification as far as the DOT is concerned, and you lenses are incapable of delivering proper performance. but other than that, yeah its like totally the same thing brah.

As far as i see it there are 2 cars for a reason, and you know which one you want when you get up in the morning. You either want the whole package or simply the driving experience.

If I was building a track slut or weekend warrior I would have gone for the FRS, since this is my daily and the track slut and weekend warrior spots are currently occupied...I got the 86 DD edition (BRZ LTD), but don't get it twisted, this car sees plenty of hard driving and will continue to be developed....i can't leave anything alone.


in all honesty the leather interior alone is worth the markup.
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if you have a women in your life, dual climate is well worth it for each partners comfort.
I've had Dual climate for the past 5 years... I guess I stopped noticing it... lol
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Yeah I don't use the automatic headlights. 1) I don't need/want a car telling me when I should have my headlights on (since I'm a smart individual). 2) Automatic headlights are more prone to turning on/off more often (then when manually controlled) and the most wear and tear that are put on HIDs occurs when they are turned on.
I've had automatic headlights for 7 years out of the 8 years I've been driving... and I've never had those issues...

My BMW's HID's are 11 years old and they've yet to fail
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I use the seat heaters all the time, love late night cruise with windows down and seat heaters on high.

In order to understand the climate control desires you must put a woman in the passenger seat, or take long trips in the car. Women always seem to want to be warmer than men, it's like the never ending blanket struggle.

As for your complete lack of appreciation of the differences in OEM engineered HID lighting VS some crap ignitors you buy off E-bay, and the hazard it adds to your car having them installed in a housing not rated for the heat, running them on a circuit potentially incapable of carrying the load, and the fact that it is not an approved modification as far as the DOT is concerned, and you lenses are incapable of delivering proper performance. but other than that, yeah its like totally the same thing brah.

As far as i see it there are 2 cars for a reason, and you know which one you want when you get up in the morning. You either want the whole package or simply the driving experience.

If I was building a track slut or weekend warrior I would have gone for the FRS, since this is my daily and the track slut and weekend warrior spots are currently occupied...I got the 86 DD edition (BRZ LTD), but don't get it twisted, this car sees plenty of hard driving and will continue to be developed....i can't leave anything alone.


in all honesty the leather interior alone is worth the markup.
Seems like I hit a soft spot, my bad brah. The point of this thread is comparing the two packages, not comparing HIDs. A proper retrofit would cost 300 which is still small compared to the whole package. Not everyone can/wants to spend the other 2700 for some switches (which may very likely be possible to import onto the frs soon), a push start and alcantra. Don't get it twisted though, I see where you're coming from. For me I just value other things than those luxuries (audio system/deadening, tunes, etc). and FYI my car is no track slut.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:19 PM   #189
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Seems like I hit a soft spot, my bad brah. The point of this thread is comparing the two packages, not comparing HIDs. A proper retrofit would cost 300 which is still small compared to the whole package. Not everyone can/wants to spend the other 2700 for some switches (which may very likely be possible to import onto the frs soon), a push start and alcantra. Don't get it twisted though, I see where you're coming from. For me I just value other things than those luxuries (audio system/deadening, tunes, etc). and FYI my car is no track slut.

a"Proper" HID conversion is not $300 it consists of buying the proper OEM equipment and installing it.

I have a severe and healthy dislike for people that take their own pocket book and style preference over proper safety for their vehicle and those around them.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #190
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If you have "women" in your life, you probably need a car that seats more people.

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Interesting.

I traded my BMW X1 three weeks before my wife's due date for a BRZ.

She actually likes it colder than me on the passenger side!

The simple answer to this thread is that YES the extra features are worth it.

How much would it cost to add all the extras and have them professionally installed and covered by warranty...much more than $3,000.

It's really not premium vs. limited its more like tracker vs. DD trims.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:30 PM   #191
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Skull completely agree. I have an frs and would never do the kits which are illegal. What hid pony up the money. They are 625 dollars a piece thru Subaru website. I haven't decided if ill upgrade but if I do I'll pay double and get the gt86 hid head lights.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:35 PM   #192
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Uh.

Hell yeah. $2000 for Alcantara and leather that looks great? Check. For a push start button that is easily replaced with a red STI button that makes me giggle when I press it? Check. For a better looking center stack? Check. For seat heaters and mirror heaters? Check. Fog lights? Check. Stupid spoiler? I could go without it, but check!

Not to mention things we should all have anyway, but that you can only get with a Limited trim: door courtesy lights and vanity mirror lights.

Oh god what about smart key entry? That's AMAZING. You can even open the trunk just by pressing a button ON the trunk handle if you have the key in your pocket.
Alcantara and leather definitely worth it. Also the DDin touch screen is nice regardless of what others say. Id rather have it than the crappy scion deck.
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Alcantara and leather definitely worth it. Also the DDin touch screen is nice regardless of what others say. Id rather have it than the crappy scion deck.
2014's get a new deck standard over at Scion. Touchscreens standard now for all models including FR-S.
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In order to understand the climate control desires you must put a woman in the passenger seat, or take long trips in the car. Women always seem to want to be warmer than men, it's like the never ending blanket struggle.
Sounds like you need to trade in for a new model, my girl adjusts her "climate zone" no matter what car we're in (20 year old wagon? no problem), the vents have a "closed" feature in addition to "open" with many possibilities in between.

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2014's get a new deck standard over at Scion. Touchscreens standard now for all models including FR-S.
youre right im still stuck in 2013 land.
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Not sure if anybody mentioned this but how about the Approach Cabin Lighting feature in the Limited version? check!

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So I assume many of y'all had your brz for a while now. Do you think it has been worth it over getting the cheaper premium or the even cheaper fr-s?

Top 'goodie' that you enjoy? Which 'goodie' you can live without/find annoying?
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