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CSG Mike · 05-23-2013, 01:43 PM

I just noticed AW11... are you on MR2OC? I had a MKI and MKII.... MKII had a BEAMS... although that R32 is what really caught my eye first.

R32 GTRs will be legal for important to the states soon...

s2d4 · 05-23-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I just noticed AW11... are you on MR2OC? I had a MKI and MKII.... MKII had a BEAMS... although that R32 is what really caught my eye first.

R32 GTRs will be legal for important to the states soon...

Nope, just the Aust one. Using it for AutoX but it is literally falling apart hence the 86.

Are you thinking of importing the R32?

CSG Mike · 05-23-2013, 02:09 PM

Just a pipe dream... I know it's an old car and doesn't really hold up to today's performance cars >.<

autobrz · 08-13-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

3. Dampers: While I was at Robi's shop I made the mistake of riding in a car equipped with Robispec KW VIII coilovers. Oooopse. After experiencing how planted and stable the car felt combined with how much more comfortable it was than stock or with just lowering springs, I had to have them.

Can you give a little more detail on how the car behaves over bumps, potholes both small and large?

I followed an fr-s on KW V3 with their standard rates and valving in the hill countries. First thing I noticed was the ride frequency is quite high. I can see the rear oscillate up and down a few times quickly when going over bumpy country roads. With even higher spring rate than stardard V3 coilovers, does the car "bounce" a little when traveling at highway speeds? What happens when you drive over a big pothole? I'm very curious about the ride quality because I'd love to disconnect the rear sway bar and still have enough roll stiffness.

solidONE · 08-13-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by autobrz

Can you give a little more detail on how the car behaves over bumps, potholes both small and large?

I followed an fr-s on KW V3 with their standard rates and valving in the hill countries. First thing I noticed was the ride frequency is quite high. I can see the rear oscillate up and down a few times quickly when going over bumpy country roads. With even higher spring rate than stardard V3 coilovers, does the car "bounce" a little when traveling at highway speeds? What happens when you drive over a big pothole? I'm very curious about the ride quality because I'd love to disconnect the rear sway bar and still have enough roll stiffness.

Interesting. Unless this FR-S was "hellaslammed" and bouncing off it's bumpstops, this oscillation you see tells you that the damping is not very well matched to the springs for this car.

How much are you charging for those custom valved KW's you got, @robispec ? Do you offer revalving service for KW dampers?

solidONE · 08-13-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Just a pipe dream... I know it's an old car and doesn't really hold up to today's performance cars >.<

What are you talking about? White BNR32 max tune to 815HPS will smoke anything and everything! lol

CSG Mike · 08-14-2013, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

What are you talking about? White BNR32 max tune to 815HPS will smoke anything and everything! lol

Don't make me get the 800/b card...

robispec · 08-14-2013, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

Interesting. Unless this FR-S was "hellaslammed" and bouncing off it's bumpstops, this oscillation you see tells you that the damping is not very well matched to the springs for this car.

How much are you charging for those custom valved KW's you got, @robispec ? Do you offer revalving service for KW dampers?

2800 these are KW clubsport level dampers with the valving we feel is correct. rides better than stock multiple track records
rebound damping levels can control up to 12 kg springs

Robi

solidONE · 08-14-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robispec

2800 these are KW clubsport level dampers with the valving we feel is correct. rides better than stock multiple track records
rebound damping levels can control up to 12 kg springs

Robi

So they are not revalved KW V3 but revalved Clubsports with only rebound damping adjustment or does it have a compression adjustment as well?

solidONE · 08-14-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Don't make me get the 800/b card...

I'd bet you still carry it in your wallet. Was an EVO V IIRC.

robispec · 08-14-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by solidONE

So they are not revalved KW V3 but revalved Clubsports with only rebound damping adjustment or does it have a compression adjustment as well?

Both

wootwoot · 08-14-2013, 05:38 PM

Can you work your magic with KW V3's as well? Or do you only deal with the club sports?

solidONE · 08-15-2013, 01:01 PM

After looking at the photos and specs on the V3 vs the clubsport it doesn't appear to be anything physically different between the 2 besides the valving and spring rates and the top hats. Am I wrong? Both are 2-way adjustable damping and do not have a external reservoir and essentially the the same damper bodies, shafts, and piston size.

robispec · 08-15-2013, 02:28 PM

correct the V3's are sold as a "street" solution and they need to fall into a specific frequency and spring range to meet TUV certifications. Clubsports push the envelope of what you can get done with these casings/shafts and valve sizing they are meant more for the track. I have a race solution coming out that dramatically alters the rebound pistion size and type like on the Evolution dampers KW builds for Me.

Robi

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05-23-2013, 01:43 PM	#43
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,564 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,213 Times in 6,856 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s)	I just noticed AW11... are you on MR2OC? I had a MKI and MKII.... MKII had a BEAMS... although that R32 is what really caught my eye first. R32 GTRs will be legal for important to the states soon...

05-23-2013, 02:09 PM	#45
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,564 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,213 Times in 6,856 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s)	Just a pipe dream... I know it's an old car and doesn't really hold up to today's performance cars >.<

08-14-2013, 05:38 PM	#54
wootwoot Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Cali Posts: 1,558 Thanks: 188 Thanked 462 Times in 264 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	Can you work your magic with KW V3's as well? Or do you only deal with the club sports?

08-15-2013, 01:01 PM	#55
solidONE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FR-S Whiteout Location: California Posts: 2,863 Thanks: 1,808 Thanked 791 Times in 611 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s)	After looking at the photos and specs on the V3 vs the clubsport it doesn't appear to be anything physically different between the 2 besides the valving and spring rates and the top hats. Am I wrong? Both are 2-way adjustable damping and do not have a external reservoir and essentially the the same damper bodies, shafts, and piston size.

08-15-2013, 02:28 PM	#56
robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s)	correct the V3's are sold as a "street" solution and they need to fall into a specific frequency and spring range to meet TUV certifications. Clubsports push the envelope of what you can get done with these casings/shafts and valve sizing they are meant more for the track. I have a race solution coming out that dramatically alters the rebound pistion size and type like on the Evolution dampers KW builds for Me. Robi

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