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Taber · 08-13-2013, 01:58 PM

Ok, so I ordered the Borla UEL Header, a Perrin overpipe and a 3" Perrin Front Pipe. I already have the Perrin "Big" 3" Cat-Back on my car.

I know I should really have software with the headers, but I'm hoping I can limp along for a month on stock software with all of this installed, and perhaps just an o2 sensor spacer...

Ryan86 · 08-13-2013, 03:27 PM

O2 spacer is a must and you good to go for long time.

foney_email · 08-13-2013, 05:16 PM

Subscribed. I'm still looking to see what the consensus is for weld quality. I am sure its much better than the knockoff headers I have had on previous cars, but I'm still worried.

chadstyle · 08-13-2013, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foney_email

Subscribed. I'm still looking to see what the consensus is for weld quality. I am sure its much better than the knockoff headers I have had on previous cars, but I'm still worried.

My welds are clean, flanges flat, and collector looks good. Everything bolts up with no issues at all and performance is kick ass...not to mention how great my car sounds now.

Pure Automotive · 08-13-2013, 11:09 PM

Sold and installed about 20 at this point without issues!

PhastekSport · 08-14-2013, 12:18 AM

Worked with Borla to either get replacements sent out or refunds in the beginning.

Now I haven't heard of an issue in a while.

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foney_email · 08-14-2013, 01:27 AM

Is the collector still as bad as the one pic that is floating around? Anyone have recent pics of the collector?

Fast_Freddy · 08-14-2013, 01:41 AM

I installed my Borla UEL about 3 weeks ago and I'm very satisfied with it. The flanges were machined perfectly flat after welding and although the collector flange was slightly convex, it doesn't matter because it flattens out when tightened to the over-pipe. As for the welds, I've seen prettier but I see no reason why the Borla welds and surrounding metal shouldn't last the car's lifetime.

In summary, not the best FA20 header, not the worst. Good value at $600.

foney_email · 08-14-2013, 03:43 AM

That's the picture that should follow every one if that mangled collector pic. I was really hoping that the quality wasn't as bad as that one instance (or the first run I guess). Looks good. I'm sold unless there is another UEL that is close in price.

Anything within +$100 that is worth looking at?

Fast_Freddy · 08-14-2013, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foney_email

That's the picture that should follow every one if that mangled collector pic. I was really hoping that the quality wasn't as bad as that one instance (or the first run I guess). Looks good. I'm sold unless there is another UEL that is close in price.

Anything within +$100 that is worth looking at?

RevWorks and that ebay one from the Philippines but those only offer 1 year warranties.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 08-14-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

RevWorks and that ebay one from the Philippines but those only offer 1 year warranties.

Yeah can't beat how Borla stands behind their work. Lifetime is a long time to warranty something.

Taber · 08-14-2013, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foney_email

That's the picture that should follow every one if that mangled collector pic. I was really hoping that the quality wasn't as bad as that one instance (or the first run I guess). Looks good. I'm sold unless there is another UEL that is close in price.

Anything within +$100 that is worth looking at?

I ended up paying $569.95 SHIPPED from Jordan at Defined for the Borla UEL header, who also offered me the Agency Power headers for really cheap.

At that price I was EXTREMELY tempted to go with the AP headers, but there are so many horror stories on here... Its tricky because I had the AP Racing headers on my Supercharged E46 M3 and they were fantastic. Its the header that most people buy for those cars, and everyone only talks about positive experiences with them. Yet you come on this board, and they're regarded as garbage.

I'm hopefully not regretting this decision in 2months wishing I had spent more on the FA20club headers.

foney_email · 08-14-2013, 06:41 PM

I looked around, but I can't find them. How do I contact defined to see if that deal would be extended to me also?

foney_email · 08-14-2013, 08:49 PM

Taber, thanks for he recommendation. I called Jordan and ordered the Borla header! I'm excited to put a dent in this torque dip, and I'll post pics of the header when it arrives. Sorry to jack the thread, but thanks for the help guys!

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08-13-2013, 01:58 PM	#15
Taber Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: Maine Posts: 61 Thanks: 17 Thanked 21 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok, so I ordered the Borla UEL Header, a Perrin overpipe and a 3" Perrin Front Pipe. I already have the Perrin "Big" 3" Cat-Back on my car. I know I should really have software with the headers, but I'm hoping I can limp along for a month on stock software with all of this installed, and perhaps just an o2 sensor spacer...

08-13-2013, 03:27 PM	#16
Ryan86 Road Warrior Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 Satin Pearl White Location: Durban, South Africa Posts: 1,651 Thanks: 181 Thanked 544 Times in 359 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	O2 spacer is a must and you good to go for long time.

08-13-2013, 05:16 PM	#17
foney_email Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: College Station Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Subscribed. I'm still looking to see what the consensus is for weld quality. I am sure its much better than the knockoff headers I have had on previous cars, but I'm still worried.

08-13-2013, 11:09 PM	#19
Pure Automotive Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: Millersville, MD Posts: 2,035 Thanks: 735 Thanked 1,952 Times in 650 Posts Mentioned: 147 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sold and installed about 20 at this point without issues!

08-14-2013, 12:18 AM	#20
PhastekSport Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Houston, TX Posts: 940 Thanks: 53 Thanked 696 Times in 284 Posts Mentioned: 74 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Worked with Borla to either get replacements sent out or refunds in the beginning. Now I haven't heard of an issue in a while. Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 4

08-14-2013, 01:27 AM	#21
foney_email Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: College Station Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the collector still as bad as the one pic that is floating around? Anyone have recent pics of the collector?

08-14-2013, 01:41 AM	#22
Fast_Freddy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Passat Location: East Coast Posts: 626 Thanks: 331 Thanked 188 Times in 130 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I installed my Borla UEL about 3 weeks ago and I'm very satisfied with it. The flanges were machined perfectly flat after welding and although the collector flange was slightly convex, it doesn't matter because it flattens out when tightened to the over-pipe. As for the welds, I've seen prettier but I see no reason why the Borla welds and surrounding metal shouldn't last the car's lifetime. In summary, not the best FA20 header, not the worst. Good value at $600.

08-14-2013, 03:43 AM	#23
foney_email Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: College Station Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's the picture that should follow every one if that mangled collector pic. I was really hoping that the quality wasn't as bad as that one instance (or the first run I guess). Looks good. I'm sold unless there is another UEL that is close in price. Anything within +$100 that is worth looking at?

08-14-2013, 06:41 PM	#27
foney_email Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: College Station Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I looked around, but I can't find them. How do I contact defined to see if that deal would be extended to me also?

08-14-2013, 08:49 PM	#28
foney_email Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: College Station Posts: 26 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Taber, thanks for he recommendation. I called Jordan and ordered the Borla header! I'm excited to put a dent in this torque dip, and I'll post pics of the header when it arrives. Sorry to jack the thread, but thanks for the help guys!

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