Catalytic converter warranty denial by Subaru. 100% Stock engine!

[Crossover Auto]

http://www.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f09048.pdf

[regal]

Looks like we bought new cars without a warranty.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by regal

Looks like we bought new cars without a warranty.

Oh please.. They replaced his engine once under warranty.. Amazing how people seem to dismiss some facts when its convenient for them..

[Weeber]

Originally Posted by regal

Looks like we bought new cars without a warranty.

Why are you so filled with negativity...

It's not like you have been refused a warranty claim, furthermore Mike's car was tracked which is in clear violation of their terms.

Chillax

[track junkie]

Subaru's warranty is just like all the other auto. mfg. warranties when it comes to "operating the vehicle in any competitive or racing event." Damage to any component is not covered.

Drivers education events on track are ok since they are not competitive or timed/racing. Except Subaru's warranty does not cover damage caused by "extreme temperatures." Which means we should not go to any hot weather D.E. events and only go when the air temperatures are below extreme.

[Opie]

Considering the cat damage likely occurred at the same time and as a result of the engine failure that was experienced, does this really need it's own thread? Just merge it with the other one...

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Crossover Auto

http://www.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f09048.pdf

What Reasons Can the Manufacturer Use to Deny a Warranty Claim?
If your vehicle is within the age and mileage limits for the applicable emissions warranty, the
manufacturer can only deny coverage if evidence shows that you have failed to properly maintain
and use your vehicle, causing the part or emission test failure. Some examples of misuse and
malmaintenance include the following:
• vehicle abuse such as off-road driving or overloading; or
• tampering with emission control parts or systems, including removal or intentional damage
of such parts or systems; or
• improper maintenance, including failure to follow maintenance schedules and instructions
specified by manufacturer, or use of replacement parts which are not equivalent to the
originally installed parts.

-alex

[strat61caster]

I don't think many people are left arguing that Subaru is legally in the wrong, the vehicle has been used "off road" in conditions that promote premature failure of parts.

We can all agree it's a shit thing to do (deny warranty that is): it wasn't racing, the vehicle wasn't modified, and Subaru has promoted this vehicle as a performance car that is up to the rigors of enthusiast driving.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

Oh please.. They replaced his engine once under warranty.. Amazing how people seem to dismiss some facts when its convenient for them..

No, they took our original engine for their own R&D/Analysis/teardown. It was still running

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

No, they took our original engine for their own R&D/Analysis/teardown. It was still running

You initiated a warranty issue and you got a new engine.. they obviously honored your warranty claim regardless of what they did with your engine.

[Shagaliscious]

I am pretty sure Subaru is saying this because they denied the warranty claim for your seized engine. If they honor to warranty any other part on it, they know that a good lawyer could easily turn that around on them, and point out that if they warrantied said item, there is no reason they can deny the engine warranty.

[KONVERTER]

The service writer who wrote up your engine r&r needs to add the catalytic converter as a failed part due to the initial engine failure.

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by KONVERTER

The service writer who wrote up your engine r&r needs to add the catalytic converter as a failed part due to the initial engine failure.

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They did.

[KONVERTER]

And they still are not honoring it? The dealer should do a make good for not recognizing the catalyst failure during the engine failure warranty work. They made more than enough off that job to cover the cat replacement.

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