If you think this car is slow...

[yuicebox]

Originally Posted by regal

Good luck with that, I felt the same way; this car is plenty fast if you drive it in the power band. But I wish you luck I really do.

Yeah what's with suspicious luck guy?

Also everyone knows that one of the main selling points of a car like a ferrari is its mechanical reliability

[DarkSunrise]

It's all relative. If you're coming from a car that used to run 11's/12's/13's, as a good number of folks on this forum are, it'll feel slow. If you're coming from a car that ran 14's/15's or above, it'll feel fine.

[Anthony]

To me, a "slow" car is one that feels unresponsive, heavy, and understeers through a corner, causing me to tone it down a bit to avoid death. To me, this is a fast car.

When people are all, "is it fast?" I'm all, "yes."

99% of the time they're asking about top speed, but I answer from a handling/agility standpoint. I'm aware that I'm not actually answering their question, but they're not. Of course if they're an actual car enthusiast, the conversation is a lot different.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Are you suggesting it's going to blow up?

He is the resident doom and gloomer. According to him all of our cars will explode sometime between 30-60K miles... If not sooner...

I digress, I don't find this car slow by any means. I also don't find it particularly fast in a straight line. I would call it quick. I have owned much faster cars, but I also enjoy this car so much on the twisties, and I enjoy driving the car the way it was meant to be driven. Above 5K

[yuicebox]

If my engine blows Im going to swap in an EZ30 I think... >.>

https://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08...le-spotlights/

[bfrank1972]

It depends on what you intend to do with the car. If you intend to race/compare against other cars at highway speeds in a straight line, there are a lot of cars that will simply overpower you. You may feel that it is "slow" in this situation. If you intend to enjoy the car by itself (carving up back roads, etc.), then it has more than enough power. I'm in the second category. When I'm zipping around on deserted back roads early in the morning, it has plenty of power - if I'm wringing its neck I'm usually going way too fast as it is.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by Wise

Very true. I don't think the 'cafe racers' will really appreciate the car. But honestly I'm having way more fun in this car than I had in my Supra. i love being able to access the entire rev range while driving hard through twisties.

I don't think you really understand this term. You're using it like "bench racer". It may have originally started in Europe (50 years ago - how old are you?) as an insult to guys who wanted to look the part of a motorcycle racer but whose bikes spent most of the time parked in front of cafes but it mostly was used to describe motorcycles that were raced through the countryside from cafe to cafe. If you've ever seen one, you'd know why the races were short: the damned things are so uncomfortable you can't stay on one for very long.

[FRyeS]

If you're coming from a car that used to run 11's/12's/13's

Power wise yes the BRZ/FRS isn't going to blow anybody's doors off.

that was capable of high 11s

If you intend to race/compare against other cars at highway speeds in a straight line, there are a lot of cars that will simply overpower you

If you're comparing this car based on quarter mile times and the ability to race Civics from stoplight to stoplight..... you're doing it wrong....

[MY13FRS]

Kids need to understand this engine's (this car and all their cars) dyno graph(s) and their "sweet spots". Learn when to be in the sweet spot and you will think this car has endless HP.

[utekineir]

Every time I drive my forester (vf39 + boltons) since getting the frs I smile so much more, even just accelerating at a normal pace.

There is a considerable difference in feel between the two, and I appreciate where the lesbian wagon is at so much more now than I did when driving it every day.

Contrast can be a nice thing.

That said if you don't dance around the torque dip this car can feel like a soggy turd.

[Anthony]

I prefer my turds soggy, actually. Different strokes...

[OrangeJuleas]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I prefer my turds soggy, actually. Different strokes...

[WolfpackS2k]

Troll thread eh?

Good stuff

[bkblitzed]

Originally Posted by Drftfan

Then quite honestly you aren't driving it right. The last few days I have been driving it hard. Harder than I have driven it so far.
There is no way this car can be considered slow.
I will admit 1st gear is kinda eh... But anything higher and it just flys along.
By the way my last car was a Ferrari and I genuinely am having more fun with this car.
Carry on fellow owners. And drive the piss out of your car.

did you drive the piss outa the ferrari? If no than of course the frs is gonna seem faster etc. Our cars are on par with civic Si's, and are really only meant for tight roads/autox.