BRZ STi tS Confirmed. Teased on Official Website

[orthojoe]

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[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Just really, all of you stop complaining about something that has no consequence for you.

Bitching about other people bitching is still bitching. LOL. Seriously though, if it's not causing unwanted mass hysteria and panic like those "It's the end of the world and I'm afraid to drive my car because of DI failure" then I really see no harm in water cooler gossip.

In fact, community talk and hype is what helps bring in cars like the GT-R, EVO, WRX, and STI. Remember when the North American community was lusting over those cars from across pond but we couldn't get in the 90's and 00's? Granted, not all of the cool cars will come over and especially not this one but it does tell the manufacturers a rough idea of what the market is looking for.

[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by snky_snky

The objective of a "tS" model is much different than that of an "STi". For example, compare a WRX STi tS to a WRX STi.

**If you already knew all this, then stop splitting hairs, you know what he meant by "real sti" ;-)

I understand what you mean. They are two different vehicles (the tS and STi)

But I would like to argue that they are both still sti cars despite their features and performance. Subaru Technica International is subaru's in-house tuning company. They exist to improve on subaru's vehicles. That doesn't always mean HP,turbocharging, etc. There are alot of people who like or are satisfied with 200hp. There are people who are not and I'm sure there will be an sti with an HP increase in the near future (The Tokyo Auto Show is right around the corner). However don't expect a turbocharger. STI has been on record, multiple times as saying they have no plans on adding one but there is more HP to have out of the FA engine.


All that said. I was simply saying that even though there are differences between sti, spec-C, tS, etc. They are all still sti cars.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by brz_star21

Bitching about other people bitching is still bitching. LOL. Seriously though, if it's not causing unwanted mass hysteria and panic like those "It's the end of the world and I'm afraid to drive my car because of DI failure" then I really see no harm in water cooler gossip.

I enjoy meta-bitching

[chanomatik]

I'm just waiting for the car to be fully produced so that the parts can come pouring out. Just give up the fender garnish with the STI logo and we'll call it a worthwhile investment.

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by TRD_07

Great, so there's nothinv really special about this!

Why? Because there's no turbo? No increase in power? Are we now saying that the only way to make a car "better" is to add more hp? From what I see, this car is special in the sense that they are offering a further improved suspension setup to make what this car was all about in the first place: handling. You also add the body kit, wheels, bbk, recaros, and most likely a slew of chassis stiffening components not listed and I'd say this car is a step above the stock BRZ.

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

Why? Because there's no turbo? No increase in power? Are we now saying that the only way to make a car "better" is to add more hp? From what I see, this car is special in the sense that they are offering a further improved suspension setup to make what this car was all about in the first place: handling. You also add the body kit, wheels, bbk, recaros, and most likely a slew of chassis stiffening components not listed and I'd say this car is a step above the stock BRZ.

This is all you're ever going to hear from everyone. They'll pay more for the headaches of turbocharging, but refuse to see the benefits of a car that handles even better than before and looks cooler to boot. This is why Japan rocks. It's not all about power. That's Murica.

You guys know you hate the look of the stock floating calipers.

[botbs]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Arguably, true enthusiasts prefer N/A

May be that is the reason why it comes with the N/A version only and gives other the flexibility to do the FI mod.

I don't think the other way around works. Removing the factory turbo/SC of a vehicle and make it as a NA car without swapping it to another high displacement NA engine? I doubt true enthusiasts would do that.

Anyways, I don't want to start the argument. What I meant is, the way they do it now give the flexibility for everyone.

NA fans, keep it as NA
FI fans, can add on FI themselves

Cheers!

[MightyMeeple]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I enjoy meta-bitching

Heheheheheh...I like that one: "meta-bitching"

Might become my new status.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

You guys know you hate the look of the stock floating calipers.

Those brakes ARE delicious. IIRC, they're about $5K a pair if you order the P/N from Japan (if those are the R205 6 pots); however, those LOOK like Brembo 4 pots.

Originally Posted by MightyMeeple

Heheheheheh...I like that one: "meta-bitching"

Might become my new status.

Glad I could oblige.

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Those brakes ARE delicious. IIRC, they're about $5K a pair if you order the P/N from Japan (if those are the R205 6 pots); however, those LOOK like Brembo 4 pots.

Cheaper to get the TRD monobloc ones... and repaint them to say "STI".

[Jawnathin]

What does the BRZ Limited (or equivalent) go for in Japan in USD? Trying to understand how much the $41k price increase really is. I saw $35k posted here, is that right?

I hope the STI version stays NA.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Cheaper to get the TRD monobloc ones... and repaint them to say "STI".

TRD monoblocs are $10K/pair. STI R205 were about $5K pair. How's that cheaper bro?

[DantKR]

Originally Posted by botbs

May be that is the reason why it comes with the N/A version only and gives other the flexibility to do the FI mod.

I don't think the other way around works. Removing the factory turbo/SC of a vehicle and make it as a NA car without swapping it to another high displacement NA engine? I doubt true enthusiasts would do that.

Anyways, I don't want to start the argument. What I meant is, the way they do it now give the flexibility for everyone.

NA fans, keep it as NA
FI fans, can add on FI themselves

Cheers!

Most of us want a FI solution from the factory so we don't screw ourselves out of the warranty.