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FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 02:10 AM

i wanna get the eibach rear sway bars ... and i wanted to know... is that all i need? or do i need any extra parts? i wanna switch out the stock sway bar .... do i need to switch a stock part out besides the stock sway? or?

mtsui · 08-04-2013, 02:11 AM

it will comes with all the hardware, all you need to the tool to install it or take it to a shop to do it

FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mtsui

it will comes with all the hardware, all you need to the tool to install it or take it to a shop to do it

ahh ok thank you! i didn't know if i need any extra parts to switch with stock ... didn't know eibach rear sway would work with stock stuff....(total noob) thank you again!

boredom.is.me · 08-04-2013, 11:43 AM

Why do you even want to switch the sway bars? You say that you are a complete noob to this stuff. Do you know how sway bars effect the car? Are you considering springs as well? Sway bars should be the last thing on your list.

wparsons · 08-04-2013, 12:04 PM

You definitely don't want to swap out just the rear sway bar. Doing so will upset the balance of the car. This isn't a front heavy FWD car that needs help rotating, it's a well balanced RWD car.

GTB/ZR-1 · 08-04-2013, 01:05 PM

As stated above: why?

With just a rear bar, you're may get over your head in a corner & end up backwards in the woods...

FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me

Why do you even want to switch the sway bars? You say that you are a complete noob to this stuff. Do you know how sway bars effect the car? Are you considering springs as well? Sway bars should be the last thing on your list.

Coilovers. People say that ishould swap out the stock sways. Like i'm all for better input.

FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

As stated above: why?

With just a rear bar, you're may get over your head in a corner & end up backwards in the woods...

i figured getting new sway bars would avoid that! So from what i'm reading, just stick with the stock sway bars? any help and recommendation would be greatly appreciated guys!

CSG Mike · 08-04-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons

You definitely don't want to swap out just the rear sway bar. Doing so will upset the balance of the car. This isn't a front heavy FWD car that needs help rotating, it's a well balanced RWD car.

Some people want the rear end to swing around a bit faster...

I know I like cars that rotate.

boredom.is.me · 08-04-2013, 01:54 PM

Any particular reason for wanting to get coilovers? And these "people" you mention, do they drive civics? I wouldn't take anymore advice from them.

FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me

Any particular reason for wanting to get coilovers? And these "people" you mention, do they drive civics? I wouldn't take anymore advice from them.

They drive audi's ... and in there mind .. they feel i should be able to glide peacefully into a corner .... i really don't see what they mean about all that.. just recommended *HIGHLY* that i swap out the rear sway .. but hearing from actualy owners i shouldn't ..... i'm go with you guys.. and for the coilovers i want to lower the car a bit but with the comfort for DD.

boredom.is.me · 08-04-2013, 02:08 PM

I was not trying to offend your peeps. i was just trying to make a point.

Getting coilovers is a serious involvement. From what I have read, coilovers change nearly all of your alignment settings unless you retain the stock top mounts. If you aren't tracking, just stick with springs. Good springs are miles better than shirty coilovers. How much of a drop are you looking for?

FriedRicr · 08-04-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me

I was not trying to offend your peeps. i was just trying to make a point.

Getting coilovers is a serious involvement. From what I have read, coilovers change nearly all of your alignment settings unless you retain the stock top mounts. If you aren't tracking, just stick with springs. Good springs are miles better than shirty coilovers. How much of a drop are you looking for?

about a finger to a finger and a half from stock if possible. and oh no, you didn't offend anyone. didn't mean to sound hard like that. completely appreciate your help!

wparsons · 08-04-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Some people want the rear end to swing around a bit faster...

I know I like cars that rotate.

Isn't your shop car running stock sways??

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriedRicr

They drive audi's ... and in there mind .. they feel i should be able to glide peacefully into a corner .... i really don't see what they mean about all that.. just recommended *HIGHLY* that i swap out the rear sway .. but hearing from actualy owners i shouldn't ..... i'm go with you guys.. and for the coilovers i want to lower the car a bit but with the comfort for DD.

There is a HUGE difference in how to tune suspension setups on front heavy AWD/FWD cars and well balanced RWD cars. Their audi's will push like crazy and need all the help they can get to rotate properly in corners. If you really feel the need to get sway bars, get a matching set unless you really know what you're doing. Our cars are much more like a miata or s2000 than any audi when it comes to suspension balance.

As for springs/coilovers, if you're only looking for about an inch drop, get quality springs. Cheap coilovers can ride much worse than they need to and could make you hate driving your car.

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