P and L turbo kit, anyone know about this kit?

[Frs300]

Originally Posted by Opposed

It's not a bad thing. I don't see a single problem with the other kits at all. I will admit, some of it is personal. I know LJ and the Fullblown team pretty well. They are a few miles from my house, and did some work on my S2K. Plus, they have been in the game for quite some time and are known world wide. They broke the stock whp record on the stock F20, they build some quality in house Honda products, NSX's, and GTR's. To be honest, I have never heard of FA20CLUB until this forum, but don't take that personally. That's why I decided to go with them. I know I will have good local support if I ever needed. And I can get dyno tuned on the spot instead of waiting to remotely tune via email through Tony. Plus, Im still back and forth on his customer service. I know you are biased and will praise him, but I have heard some unprofessinal things from him through other forum members, and that kind of turned me off. But im really not starting anything. I do like their kit quite a bit. In the end, I personally think everyone should boost their FRS/BRZ after driving one. My god is it fun.

look up tr3 performance instead of fa20club...its same place

https://www.facebook.com/Tr3Performance

[lexusb3]

Like he said its more personal.. Yes I'm biased cuz I'm usin his kit and my buddy is using fbm kit that's y I personally seen it the kit myself not just pictures so not fully biased lol... But tony also broke records I'm siting on one right now ! From 5 psi to 16psi beats all the kits this far !!! But this not the thread to go back and fourth and this is a very controversial and will never end let the NUMBER AND TRACK TIMES do the talking lol

[lexusb3]

Again this is all my opinion and don't want to hurt no ones feelings and want no problems with anyone its all love so hope to see most of y'all at Texas !!!!

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by lexusb3

Like he said its more personal.. Yes I'm biased cuz I'm usin his kit and my buddy is using fbm kit that's y I personally seen it the kit myself not just pictures so not fully biased lol... But tony also broke records I'm siting on one right now ! From 5 psi to 16psi beats all the kits this far !!! But this not the thread to go back and fourth and this is a very controversial and will never end let the NUMBER AND TRACK TIMES do the talking lol

16 psi is a record? I know that the P&L stage 1 kit has broken 500 hp on an automatic with more psi to spare. They just like to keep the confidentiality of their clients and let them release what information they want to rather than blast the forum every time they sell a turbo and tune.

As shown with the kit surviving a front end collision with only 1 pipe needing a replacement, they build their kit to last for the life of the car.

At the end of the day it's up to each owner to decide what's right for them. Price vs quality vs proximity (before anyone gets upset, I'm not naming other kits as not being quality).

[lexusb3]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

16 psi is a record? I know that the P&L stage 1 kit has broken 500 hp on an automatic with more psi to spare. They just like to keep the confidentiality of their clients and let them release what information they want to rather than blast the forum every time they sell a turbo and tune.

As shown with the kit surviving a front end collision with only 1 pipe needing a replacement, they build their kit to last for the life of the car.

At the end of the day it's up to each owner to decide what's right for them. Price vs quality vs proximity (before anyone gets upset, I'm not naming other kits as not being quality).

I seem fbm do 450 plus I think but on more boost I have yet had a chance to
Add boost yet .. I have started this car as soon as I bought it my car has pretty much all turbo miles and I started at 5 psi which made more
Then other kits at 7-8 just saying then I drove a few thousand and up
The boost to 8-10 which was higher then others then another few thousand miles to My 12-16 wich again is higher than others psi which is 432 in Florida hot temp lol I go up north I'm sure I make more lol but that's not the point congrats to that "Mysterious client that made 500" ima a visual person I like to see the
Car the numbers the DYNOS etc not saying I don't trust u but that's just how society is.. I can easily go on the dyno run 20psi and break records but at what cost it's not like I'm driving it at that level ... Right now I'm abusing 12-16 psi and abusing the hell out of it and will be at the track to prove numbers and ill up it agin after another few thousand miles

[lexusb3]

I ment record wise as hp to boost ratio ...

[lexusb3]

But this fight will never end your right end of the day its the owner. Happy
With my choice and regret nothing and wish the best for everyone we al have the samme dam car lol next we all be fighting about why this color is better than that color

[Supermassive]

So I've been off this forum for a while since I haven't been up to too much new with my ride, but I figured i would give an update with my P&L kit on my car. I just ticked over 18k miles on my FR-S with 14k of that boosted. I'm still only running 8psi but i drive the shit out of this thing, I've had it over 160mph (on GPS) and the thing just goes like stink.

I originally went with P&L because everything else looked chintzy...not to mention that when i ordered mine Accelerated Performance and P&L were the only two companies offering kits. I also liked the turbo they chose. The Precision Turbo 5558 is a pretty damn good choice, spools quick, has v-band mounting, and the air cooled ceramic bearings are quite nice. Being one of the first kits had some headaches associated with it (no instructions for one..) but in the end the build quality is second to none, the coatings are amazing, and the fitment was spot on.

The only gripe i have is that cleaning the damn air filter requires removal of the front end to even get at it. Not fun in Phoenix when it's 120 damn degrees out.

[JuniorAWD]

Originally Posted by lexusb3

I seem fbm do 450 plus I think but on more boost I have yet had a chance to
Add boost yet .. I have started this car as soon as I bought it my car has pretty much all turbo miles and I started at 5 psi which made more
Then other kits at 7-8 just saying then I drove a few thousand and up
The boost to 8-10 which was higher then others then another few thousand miles to My 12-16 wich again is higher than others psi which is 432 in Florida hot temp lol I go up north I'm sure I make more lol but that's not the point congrats to that "Mysterious client that made 500" ima a visual person I like to see the
Car the numbers the DYNOS etc not saying I don't trust u but that's just how society is.. I can easily go on the dyno run 20psi and break records but at what cost it's not like I'm driving it at that level ... Right now I'm abusing 12-16 psi and abusing the hell out of it and will be at the track to prove numbers and ill up it agin after another few thousand miles
434whp/323tq/E85/16PSI
337whp/255tq/93 pump/10PSI
287whp/212tq/93 pump/5.3PSI

Dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing

I can make 300whp running 5-6psi with the P&L kit on 93 easily, but it wont be safe.. will just be a look at me dyno number. For 1 dyno pull you can be OVERLY aggressive, no one but your tuner will know.. but when you go to the track and your 290whp traps 105-6mph or your 340whp traps 110 and the 440whp traps 118 then what?

Right now I can for a FACT tell you that 10psi = 112-113mph traps with the P&L kit, done consistently over and over. Those numbers mean something because they were verified at a track with timing equipment.
Base pressure trapped 106-107 at 5.5-6psi and 8psi trapped 109-110. I know that the AUTO kit @16-17psi traps 124mph.

I'm a visual person too, I like to see track times.. Those tell the truth about what you ACTUALLY make for power.

Jr

[EAGLE5]

How much does a set PSI at a power level matter anyway? I think real-world performance, response, and reliability matter. PSI and dyno WHP won't really tell you any of that.

[jamesm]

which kit you choose should have more to do with where you're located than anything else. local support and the availability of real tuning (i.e. not etuning) is the most important thing. the other differences between the kits (aside from turbo selection) are largely immaterial.

[lexusb3]

Originally Posted by JuniorAWD

Dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing

I can make 300whp running 5-6psi with the P&L kit on 93 easily, but it wont be safe.. will just be a look at me dyno number. For 1 dyno pull you can be OVERLY aggressive, no one but your tuner will know.. but when you go to the track and your 290whp traps 105-6mph or your 340whp traps 110 and the 440whp traps 118 then what?

Right now I can for a FACT tell you that 10psi = 112-113mph traps with the P&L kit, done consistently over and over. Those numbers mean something because they were verified at a track with timing equipment.
Base pressure trapped 106-107 at 5.5-6psi and 8psi trapped 109-110. I know that the AUTO kit @16-17psi traps 124mph.

I'm a visual person too, I like to see track times.. Those tell the truth about what you ACTUALLY make for power.

Jr

im on this forum daily and always updating everyone on the status of my car with the power i made at the dyno. I daily drive this car and beat it up and gave rides to a handful of people on this forum. I have proven what this car can do countless times only thing missing is track times and a built motor. im a man of my word and always have produced so like i said track times should be done sometime this month as long as the weather cools down and it does not rain (problems of south florida rain) lol so im looking to do 11.1 or greater to beat a record

[JuniorAWD]

Originally Posted by lexusb3

im on this forum daily and always updating everyone on the status of my car with the power i made at the dyno. I daily drive this car and beat it up and gave rides to a handful of people on this forum. I have proven what this car can do countless times only thing missing is track times and a built motor. im a man of my word and always have produced so like i said track times should be done sometime this month as long as the weather cools down and it does not rain (problems of south florida rain) lol so im looking to do 11.1 or greater to beat a record

That is great, but still doesn't really provide FACTUAL content. Just your opinion for the most part. Basically the whole PSI/WHP record is meaning less if we dont have a TRAP speed to correlate to it. I can throw my car on one dyno and make 1500whp and then another and make 1000whp.. If I go to the track and my trap speeds show I am trapping like most 1000whp cars then we know that the lower number is the more accurate one.

Florida hasn't been that bad, although it does rain pretty often. The guys at AWD managed to make it to the track a few times this summer and run there low 9s car, I cant imagine the weather is going to hurt an 11sec car that bad.

Good luck skipping 14-13-12-11s and going right into the 10s

[lexusb3]

Originally Posted by JuniorAWD

That is great, but still doesn't really provide FACTUAL content. Just your opinion for the most part. Basically the whole PSI/WHP record is meaning less if we dont have a TRAP speed to correlate to it. I can throw my car on one dyno and make 1500whp and then another and make 1000whp.. If I go to the track and my trap speeds show I am trapping like most 1000whp cars then we know that the lower number is the more accurate one.

Florida hasn't been that bad, although it does rain pretty often. The guys at AWD managed to make it to the track a few times this summer and run there low 9s car, I cant imagine the weather is going to hurt an 11sec car that bad.

Good luck skipping 14-13-12-11s and going right into the 10s

Lol well I'm sure I wil hit 13 12 11 for sure not like first run will be perfect and ya Florida is not that bad but when I decide to take a day off it does tend to be shitty my luck lol. But if u want to get all technical ok what ever makes u happy lol I can simply go on the dyno and hit 500++ with more boost but we all know street wise it won't work or at least for long so I do disagree that point that u say the dyno is kinda useless. But I like to make everyone happy and I will post my results when I get a chance and I'm quite confident it will be good !