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mpicher · 08-02-2013, 06:48 AM

Anybody in RTR or Stock/Street running spacers or tried them and not running them now?

I've checked a few of the builds posted but haven't seen mention of them.

Thanks,
Mike

edj · 08-02-2013, 09:26 AM

i use 1/4" spacers on the front with my Kosei wheels (+50 ET) so that
the 245 Hoosiers fit but that is all. when i go to street tires next year
the spacers will not be required.

the extra 1/2" of track width may help a little but it is within the noise...

plus the lug nuts do not screw on the wheel studs enough that i would
trust them on the street. you would need to get longer studs.

Scooby South · 08-02-2013, 11:30 AM

not legal for the most part.. 1/4in isn't alot of room to play with. Just buy the correct offset wheel. if its a clearance issue. I agree with EDJ. if you can get at least 5 turns on the lug nut, it should be sufficient.

Bill

mpicher · 08-02-2013, 03:25 PM

Well, I'm thinking I need to swap out of the crappy OE studs anyway.... I've stripped 2 (i was setting torque to 95, backed it down to 89).

Spacers are legal in RTR / Stock / Street... just not much... up to 5mm. My AutoX wheel is the 17" Kosei K1-TS.

The Kosei's seem to show more stud than the stock rims... Maybe I just need some open ended nuts instead. Maybe with the closed end nuts I'm causing them to strip? Grasping at straws here. I've had lugs for years with my Cooper & never had this problem.

Sccabrz192 · 08-02-2013, 03:38 PM

The OE lugs suck, replace them ASAP.

I've had issues, Simmons has had issues, Holly broke 2 or 3 herself as well. It's not you. They are crap.

mpicher · 08-02-2013, 06:03 PM

What studs are you guys using?

This is why I'm thinking if I replace them, go a bit longer, add a 5mm spacer to get a tad wider stance. Plus the H&R 5mm spacers come with studs. STONE ---> two birds

If the spacer's aren't worth it... I'll just source studs.

Miniata · 08-02-2013, 11:01 PM

I'm on 50mm offset 17" Kosei K1-TS wheels in RTR as well. If I could find a good quality 3mm (or maybe 5mm if there are enough threads left on the studs) lightweight spacer that was lugcentric and hubcentric and wasn't too expensive, I'd give them a try. I've used H&R's in the past on other cars, and was happy with their quality. I'd rather not change studs at this time.

BlaineWasHere · 08-03-2013, 03:31 AM

I replaced my studs with ARP 10MM extended studs.

With the stock studs there was a ton of metal shavings during every wheel change.

mpicher · 08-03-2013, 05:48 AM

Blaine, with that stud length what nuts did you end up using? The prices on some of these nuts are crazy for something I'm going to drop on the ground twice an autocross day...

On the studs, I assume you mean the ARP 100-7716

BlaineWasHere · 08-03-2013, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpicher

Blaine, with that stud length what nuts did you end up using? The prices on some of these nuts are crazy for something I'm going to drop on the ground twice an autocross day...

On the studs, I assume you mean the ARP 100-7716

I bought the ARP studs for WRX, they can be found here:

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/ARP-...2-2011-WRX-STI

I'm just using Blox aluminum/open ended lugs. They are about $70-80 for a set. Mine look like crap now but they are light and I don't see metal shavings during tire changes with this combo. I am using anti-seize also.

mpicher · 08-04-2013, 10:20 AM

ok... ARP studs & Blox on the way :-)... screw the spacers for now but I'll have enough thread if I want to try some.

BlaineWasHere · 08-04-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpicher

ok... ARP studs & Blox on the way :-)... screw the spacers for now but I'll have enough thread if I want to try some.

I ran them without spacers for a while but I have 5mm spacers all around now because I moved up to 255 and 17x9 et45 was a little to tight and the wheel was hitting control arm in the front at full lock. Plus I like the freedom of being able to change the offsets with spacers safely. The longer studs make wheel changes much easier.

Razz · 08-07-2013, 12:50 AM

I would never use spacers due to wheel weight.

Set up your car properly, not mickey mouse.

BlaineWasHere · 08-07-2013, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz

I would never use spacers due to wheel weight.

Set up your car properly, not mickey mouse.

Wheel weight? The 5mm spacers weigh a few ounces. Literally like 3oz.

08-02-2013, 06:48 AM	#1
mpicher Autocross Nut Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento 2013 Scion FR-S - MT Location: Maine Posts: 117 Thanks: 50 Thanked 36 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Spacers Anybody in RTR or Stock/Street running spacers or tried them and not running them now? I've checked a few of the builds posted but haven't seen mention of them. Thanks, Mike

08-02-2013, 09:26 AM	#2
edj Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2022 Toyota GR86 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 191 Thanks: 15 Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	i use 1/4" spacers on the front with my Kosei wheels (+50 ET) so that the 245 Hoosiers fit but that is all. when i go to street tires next year the spacers will not be required. the extra 1/2" of track width may help a little but it is within the noise... plus the lug nuts do not screw on the wheel studs enough that i would trust them on the street. you would need to get longer studs. __________________ Eric 2022 Toyota GR86 Steel

08-02-2013, 11:01 PM	#7
Miniata Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ - 90 Miata - 07 FXT -05 Mini Location: Ohio Posts: 546 Thanks: 6 Thanked 142 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm on 50mm offset 17" Kosei K1-TS wheels in RTR as well. If I could find a good quality 3mm (or maybe 5mm if there are enough threads left on the studs) lightweight spacer that was lugcentric and hubcentric and wasn't too expensive, I'd give them a try. I've used H&R's in the past on other cars, and was happy with their quality. I'd rather not change studs at this time. __________________ 17x7 Kosei K1-TS w/ 215/45-17 Dunlop Star Specs Nameless Track Pipe - Strano front sway bar

08-03-2013, 03:31 AM	#8
BlaineWasHere Grip>Drift Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FRS Location: NorCal Posts: 3,472 Thanks: 782 Thanked 1,749 Times in 918 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I replaced my studs with ARP 10MM extended studs. With the stock studs there was a ton of metal shavings during every wheel change. __________________ My FR-S Build Thread!

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mpicher Autocross Nut Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento 2013 Scion FR-S - MT Location: Maine Posts: 117 Thanks: 50 Thanked 36 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Well, I'm thinking I need to swap out of the crappy OE studs anyway.... I've stripped 2 (i was setting torque to 95, backed it down to 89). Spacers are legal in RTR / Stock / Street... just not much... up to 5mm. My AutoX wheel is the 17" Kosei K1-TS. The Kosei's seem to show more stud than the stock rims... Maybe I just need some open ended nuts instead. Maybe with the closed end nuts I'm causing them to strip? Grasping at straws here. I've had lugs for years with my Cooper & never had this problem.

08-02-2013, 06:03 PM	#6
mpicher Autocross Nut Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento 2013 Scion FR-S - MT Location: Maine Posts: 117 Thanks: 50 Thanked 36 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	What studs are you guys using? This is why I'm thinking if I replace them, go a bit longer, add a 5mm spacer to get a tad wider stance. Plus the H&R 5mm spacers come with studs. STONE ---> two birds If the spacer's aren't worth it... I'll just source studs.

08-03-2013, 05:48 AM	#9
mpicher Autocross Nut Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento 2013 Scion FR-S - MT Location: Maine Posts: 117 Thanks: 50 Thanked 36 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Blaine, with that stud length what nuts did you end up using? The prices on some of these nuts are crazy for something I'm going to drop on the ground twice an autocross day... On the studs, I assume you mean the ARP 100-7716

08-04-2013, 10:20 AM	#11
mpicher Autocross Nut Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Argento 2013 Scion FR-S - MT Location: Maine Posts: 117 Thanks: 50 Thanked 36 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	ok... ARP studs & Blox on the way :-)... screw the spacers for now but I'll have enough thread if I want to try some.

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Razz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Fast Location: United States Posts: 480 Thanks: 64 Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would never use spacers due to wheel weight. Set up your car properly, not mickey mouse.

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