Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ Debut at 2012 Detroit NAIAS. 600HP Drift FR-S Race Car Reveal - Page 22 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MrVito · 01-09-2012, 05:48 PM

we already know that the EJ and FA engines share a common mount setup. It makes sense to just take a built EJ25 and design a new manifold for it to make it work in this chassis for competition. No factory backed team in their right minds would campaign an untested new engine in a professional series when they have a proven option available. It's just not cost effective for development purposes, nor for parts replacement.

Longhorn248 · 01-09-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

lol "racecar" not found......

jk.

- drew

Syldrin · 01-09-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrVito

we already know that the EJ and FA engines share a common mount setup. It makes sense to just take a built EJ25 and design a new manifold for it to make it work in this chassis for competition. No factory backed team in their right minds would campaign an untested new engine in a professional series when they have a proven option available. It's just not cost effective for development purposes, nor for parts replacement.

true i didn't think about it that way.

Nambo · 01-09-2012, 05:51 PM

Loving the Subaru news, too bad Scion's news won't reflect us Aussies. Nonetheless, Thanks Hachi for the updates!

Giccin · 01-09-2012, 05:53 PM

Bahhhh~~ I want to know the price. >_< ffs

They're really dangling that carrot.

Or Pantie.

Syldrin · 01-09-2012, 05:54 PM

all pantines have been dropped giccin.

carbonBLUE · 01-09-2012, 05:54 PM

if the drift engine produces 600hp and it can mount directly to the stock tranny?

questions
1 are they still using stock tranny and diff?
2 if they are is the tranny beefed up for the application(which mean beefy aftermarket gearsets available soon

)
3 can the stock torsen diff handle 600hp? (considering its sourced from the isf its completely possible
4 upgraded or stock driveshafts?

NemesisPrime909 · 01-09-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Giccin

Bahhhh~~ I want to know the price. >_< ffs

They're really dangling that carrot.

Or Pantie.

Agreed, I really hope it's below the dreaded $25k est. that has been floating around magazine publications

ahausheer · 01-09-2012, 05:57 PM

This is annoying. Im dissapointed in Toybaru for stringing this out for so long. How can they debut something with nothing new to show or report. By definition this is not a debut this is just a car at a car show.

Ikaros · 01-09-2012, 05:58 PM

ugh, can't believe I missed 21 pages of discussion. The First FR-S program seems cool and all but it's only for the US and there really isn't really anything special about it other than having the car first. It's nice to see that they used 86 as the number of winners though, shows how close this car is to the GT86 and not like the other Scion cars.

BradBot · 01-09-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikaros

ugh, can't believe I missed 21 pages of discussion. The First FR-S program seems cool and all but it's only for the US and there really isn't really anything special about it other than having the car first. It's nice to see that they used 86 as the number of winners though, shows how close this car is to the GT86 and not like the other Scion cars.

Don't worry; at least 3 pages was an off-topic argument about HID headlights

Syldrin · 01-09-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

if the drift engine produces 600hp and it can mount directly to the stock tranny?

questions
1 are they still using stock tranny and diff?
2 if they are is the tranny beefed up for the application(which mean beefy aftermarket gearsets available soon

)
3 can the stock torsen diff handle 600hp? (considering its sourced from the isf its completely possible
4 upgraded or stock driveshafts?

1. looks like it has a sequintial gear box
2. it is a brand new tranny.
3. it is the same diff used in the supra
4. you got me on that.

Racecomp Engineering · 01-09-2012, 06:03 PM

How are they going to give 86 people the opportunity to buy something without telling them the price?

- drew

NemesisPrime909 · 01-09-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

How are they going to give 86 people the opportunity to buy something without telling them the price?

- drew

yeah....doesn't make sense to me

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