Stock BRZ

[dsgerbc]

I will admit one thing that I want though.
I wouldn't mind the alcantara series10 steering wheel. I really like the feel of those and enjoyed a PS3 wheel made of alcantara for a while. Not sure I'd get one though, I hear those wear out /absorb palm sweat fast unless one drives in gloves.

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Chee-Hu

That has got to be the most ignorant and arrogant sh*t I've read today. The sentence before that is almost as ignorant. Why buy a brand new car to rip it apart, and build from the ground up? The only reason I would see someone doing this is if they track the car majority of the time. Wouldn't it make more sense to purchase a beaten up old car?

And how is this not ignorant?

Plus after that sentence I mentioned that I knew BRZ owners that fit the bill. My comments are based off observation. That's how I form opinions. I'm sorry that you either don't know enough people that it applies to or just aren't aware enough to see these traits in others. It's okay to be cheap. Heck, I'm cheap! I still haven't purchased wheels or suspension like most guys do.

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by thill

If somebody could point me to a better radio/NAV unit (I have been looking) that fit the standard hole for the radio so I would not have to use crappy looking trim pieces I might actually be interested in that. I checked out a bunch of head units at Best Buy and a local specialty audio store, and nothing blew me away enough to drop the dough. Hopefully at some point there will be a better alternative in the $500-700 range.

I've been eyeing the Pioneer AVH-P8400BH for over two years now, since I had my WRX and was waiting for it to come out, then decided to sell the WRX and wait for the BRZ. Mach V has it on their BRZ if you need to see pics of it installed.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

Why? Is your brz/frs not 'unique' enough? How many do you see every day? I'm sure some semi-rich college kid from Cali with a white FR-S can feel not unique due to seeing another white FR-S on campus parking.

BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

[chanomatik]

Okay, another thing... You HONESTLY prefer the prop rod for the hood over a $100 GrimmSpeed hood strut kit? It looks OEM! Everyone that sees me prop the hood swears it's OEM-looking and when people ask me what I've done to the car I almost always forget the hood struts because they look like they really belong there. And they're safer... until the gas in the struts fail, possibly. hahaha

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by thill

If somebody could point me to a better radio/NAV unit (I have been looking) that fit the standard hole for the radio so I would not have to use crappy looking trim pieces I might actually be interested in that. I checked out a bunch of head units at Best Buy and a local specialty audio store, and nothing blew me away enough to drop the dough. Hopefully at some point there will be a better alternative in the $500-700 range.

Since you twisted my arm.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=741620



http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2431426

[thill]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Since you twisted my arm.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=741620



http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2431426

Thanks for posting that. It is hard to tell what the trim pieces look like on my monitor at work, but it could be what I am looking for. There is no NAV, but it does integrate with iPhone apps, so that could work if Google Maps app is compatible with it.

[Chee-Hu]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

And how is this not ignorant?

Plus after that sentence I mentioned that I knew BRZ owners that fit the bill. My comments are based off observation. That's how I form opinions. I'm sorry that you either don't know enough people that it applies to or just aren't aware enough to see these traits in others. It's okay to be cheap. Heck, I'm cheap! I still haven't purchased wheels or suspension like most guys do.

ROFL. To each his own, I guess. You'd rather have a brand spanking new car as a project instead of a old ass beaten up car? Being cheap has nothing to do with leaving the car stock IMO. It's more like those people have other priorities on their list than making their car "shine."

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Chee-Hu

ROFL. To each his own, I guess. You'd rather have a brand spanking new car as a project instead of a old ass beaten up car? Being cheap has nothing to do with leaving the car stock IMO. It's more like those people have other priorities on their list than making their car "shine."

Okay, I concede to your point. I use the term "cheap" very, very loosely. I meant it as you stated as "differing priorities". I'll also admit that I'm arrogant, too. hahaha

And yes, I'd rather have something new and potentially more reliable to build upon rather than putting money into rebuilding it into running order first, then modifying. I had a 2001 Impreza RS coupe that I had to keep fixing up while putting parts into, since it wound up being an abused lemon by the time I got it. Eventually I got so frustrated with it that I sold the parts that made it unique, sat on the car in its broken state for a few years, then finally sold it last year in February. Never again will I buy a "beater" AND also go out of my way to mod it.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

P.S.: don't care about "unique", I'm not a teen/tween any more, and not having a mid-life crisis either (yet?).

Just want to point out that teen/tween/mid-life crisis are not prerequisites to enjoy having a "different" car. Your car is a physical extension of yourself; an extension of your limbs that super enhance your ability to travel. You could've gotten a fuel efficient econocar to get the job done, but no. For whatever reason, you chose this car which sacrifices some aspects of a commuter for indulgence in other aspects (sporting characteristics). Not only is it a physical extension of yourself (which is what all cars, even ho hum ones, already are) but it is also an expression of your mind. Choosing this car because of its distinguising marks/characteristics over other cars is a customization in and of itself. You chose a car that is "modified" from the generic class of transportation vehicles. A sort of "crisis," if you will.

Do people generally wear "stock" clothes (same shirt and pants everyday?). No, they wear clothes that match what they like. Same can apply to a car with it being a physical and [especially] mental extension of oneself. If every car in the world were *exactly* the same, it wouldn't be very stimulating (well, some folks would be indifferent). So we chose a BRZ for stimulation. Further, if every BRZ were *exactly* the same, it would seem more a generic tool and less an extension of oneself (some, like you, are indifferent or prefer generic at this point). I see it simply as an acquired taste that you lack. Everyone isn't forced to drink the beer.

I choose to "degeneralize" mine by selecting properly engineered components that stimulate me in a less generic way. Others may not like my choice enhancements but I don't care. I'm convinced in my mind that I've equipped my physical/mental extensions to meet my own set of standards and not everyone else's. That's very satisfying.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Okay, another thing... You HONESTLY prefer the prop rod for the hood over a $100 GrimmSpeed hood strut kit? It looks OEM! Everyone that sees me prop the hood swears it's OEM-looking and when people ask me what I've done to the car I almost always forget the hood struts because they look like they really belong there. And they're safer... until the gas in the struts fail, possibly. hahaha

I used to have GReddy CF hood struts and was about to upgrade to SYMS struts... then realized the nicer ones (including GrimmSpeed) use more material/weigh more. Then I looked up the Supra and LFA had hood props rather than struts likely for weight savings (LFA one is CF). So I reverted to my stock hood prop. Insignificant weight savings, yeah , but I did it for the principle.

[5th 86]

Yep pretty stupid, could of just mass produced the clear ones, unless by law you have to show amber on the sides even during day light

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

I used to have GReddy CF hood struts and was about to upgrade to SYMS struts... then realized the nicer ones (including GrimmSpeed) use more material/weigh more. Then I looked up the Supra and LFA had hood props rather than struts likely for weight savings (LFA one is CF). So I reverted to my stock hood prop. Insignificant weight savings, yeah , but I did it for the principle.

I knew you'd come in with that technical stuff! Is your car a purpose-built race car for everyday use? Why not get an FR-S if you want to save on weight? Hood struts are negligible compared to the handicapped "performance" of 18" wheels that are wider. Get 16" wheels if you want to save on weight. Carbon fiber EVERYTHING!!!!!!

Choosing the hood prop over the strut for a non-track-spec car... is... well... I respect you so much... but... I still can't agree to it! GAH!

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I knew you'd come in with that technical stuff! Is your car a purpose-built race car for everyday use? Why not get an FR-S if you want to save on weight? Hood struts are negligible compared to the handicapped "performance" of 18" wheels that are wider. Get 16" wheels if you want to save on weight. Carbon fiber EVERYTHING!!!!!!

Choosing the hood prop over the strut for a non-track-spec car... is... well... I respect you so much... but... I still can't agree to it! GAH!

Lol yup. Like I said, "insignificant." The Supra and LFA weren't track-spec cars and I like the idea that I can make my car closer to the LFA in some ways. Plus I have to find ways to offset the weight added by my heavy-ish wheels somehow!