Expensive light Rims+Expensive light Tires or Suspension+Cheaper Rims+Cheaper Tires?

[autobrz]

ps im not very good at racing but we all like to think we are

pps. what I'm saying is buy a good sticky tire for the stock wheels and save your money to go to driving school if you're serious about racing.

ppps. driving feel is greatly affected by tire so even if your suspension reacts imperceptibly slower because of higher unsprung weight, a stiffer, grippier and more responsive tire will transform your car into something much better than stock.

[GoSharks]

Originally Posted by RAYSSPL

Save your pennies and do everything right in order to reduce compromises

This is exactly what I want to do. Planning on Enkei RFP1 17x8 and PSS to start, then ??? I am working with a local Subie shop who just picked up a BRZ, and he is looking into options. Coilovers seem smarter over the longterm than coils, but taking it slow.

[qoncept]

Yeah, the best of my input would be to look at other tires. Wheels are up to you - you probably picked the Oz wheels because you like them, but Neova's are about the most expensive tire out of the typical autox lot. In the US there are competitive tires for $100 less each.

[raul]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but changing the wheels and tires aren't going to put a lot of stress on the suspension. They're unsprung weight.

Stickier tires will put more stress on the suspension. More grip means more roll. When you have more roll you need swaybars or stiffer springs.

[qoncept]

Originally Posted by raul

Stickier tires will put more stress on the suspension. More grip means more roll. When you have more roll you need swaybars or stiffer springs.

"Need" is a relative term.

[raul]

Originally Posted by qoncept

"Need" is a relative term.

I can agree with that, but you will want some since you'll get considerably more roll than with stock tires.

[autobrz]

racing puts more stress onthe suspension why even worry about stress on the car if racing?

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[OnionTou]

Originally Posted by qoncept

Yeah, the best of my input would be to look at other tires. Wheels are up to you - you probably picked the Oz wheels because you like them, but Neova's are about the most expensive tire out of the typical autox lot. In the US there are competitive tires for $100 less each.

I picked the OZs because they were the lightest spec-wise. (and yes they were pretty).

As a matter of fact I got my wheels+tires done yesterday. Instead of the OZs I got some Sparco Assetto Garas with the Advan Neovas



In regards to my tire choice, the Advan Neovas were pretty competitively priced. they cost me about $260+tax each, but when I compared to Bridgestone 760s at $340, and Goodyear Assymetrics for $280+tax, they seem like a heck of a value.

[OnionTou]

Originally Posted by Aresio

Maybe I can help you with a few prices:

OZ Ultraleggera: US$ 1900,00. I know an importer. Also, there are some at sale in Av. Canada.

Works Emotion: US$ 2500,00. The store is in Av. Angamos.

Konig Deception: The store is in Av. Canada.

Regarding the tires, you can buy DUNLOP DIrezza 235, 40 R18 for around US$ 200,00 each. Maxxis tires are also very good and less expensive.

I just bought the Works Rims for my GT and the Dunlop tires.

Also, there are some stores that will receive the original rims/tires for around US$600,00, but I recommend you not to sell them if you want to take your car to the track (track days are in La Chutana, almost every saturday).

I already bought my tires and wheels yesterday.

My initial price quote for the OZs were from Ekonollantas, I ended up buying a set of Sparco Assetto Gara from Rally+Circuit, total price $1400. As you know Sparco wheels are "OZ Engineered".

In regards to tires, I know there is a whole array of tires out there, I've seen Bridgestones 760s more expensive than my Advan Neovas, and they aren't as grippy. I've browsed the Goodyear Assymetrics, and they are still more expensive.

In regards to Maxxis I ended up hearing they were as good as Nexen: nice to look at, nicely priced...not as nice as the other more expensive options on the track. Nexen is a decent tire, I use them on my daily driver. But they aren't the tires I'd pick to autocross.

BTW, are you going to the Toyota Oldschool even this 20/Jul at La Chutana? All the GT86s that are participating are from an owners club. Be sure to stop by, we all like to meet new owners.

[Aresio]

Originally Posted by OnionTou

I already bought my tires and wheels yesterday.

My initial price quote for the OZs were from Ekonollantas, I ended up buying a set of Sparco Assetto Gara from Rally+Circuit, total price $1400. As you know Sparco wheels are "OZ Engineered".

In regards to tires, I know there is a whole array of tires out there, I've seen Bridgestones 760s more expensive than my Advan Neovas, and they aren't as grippy. I've browsed the Goodyear Assymetrics, and they are still more expensive.

In regards to Maxxis I ended up hearing they were as good as Nexen: nice to look at, nicely priced...not as nice as the other more expensive options on the track. Nexen is a decent tire, I use them on my daily driver. But they aren't the tires I'd pick to autocross.

BTW, are you going to the Toyota Oldschool even this 20/Jul at La Chutana? All the GT86s that are participating are from an owners club. Be sure to stop by, we all like to meet new owners.

Congratulations on your new tires and wheels. I had the maxxis on my Zelas (Tc2, which by the way is on sale) and I have no regrets. I couldn´t go to La Chutana last saturday because I was at Chiclayo, but I´ll be happy to meet other owners too, so please give me a heads up if there is any other meeting.

[RehabJeff86]

Expensive tires, rims, and suspension. Dont go cheap on all crucial elements that will save your life.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by autobrz

a stiffer, grippier and more responsive tire will transform your car into something much better than stock.

This may not be entirely accurate.
I read a test where Car and Driver ran an FR-S against a base Cayman just to see how close it would be. In an effort to level the playing field a little, they put stickier tires on the FR-S and decided that they had not done the car any favors. One of the great advantages of the car stock is the fact that the traction is so balanced that you can control it with the gas pedal if you know what you are doing. The stickier tires threw that all off. It got harder to deliberately slide the car around a tight corner, for example.

EDIT: Not Car and Driver. I can't find the article on the web. C&D did a comparo but it isn't the one I was thinking of.

[Miniata]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

This may not be entirely accurate.
I read a test where Car and Driver ran an FR-S against a base Cayman just to see how close it would be. In an effort to level the playing field a little, they put stickier tires on the FR-S and decided that they had not done the car any favors. One of the great advantages of the car stock is the fact that the traction is so balanced that you can control it with the gas pedal if you know what you are doing. The stickier tires threw that all off. It got harder to deliberately slide the car around a tight corner, for example.

I would love to read this article. Do you have a link?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Miniata

I would love to read this article. Do you have a link?

its out there. the point the article made wasnt that it wasnt a faster car with the tires but it took that loose fun away. that fun though is subjective.