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Old 07-15-2013, 11:08 AM   #15
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UEL headers will do the same thing, and then some. Still n/a, too, just with an E85 tune.

Torque dip turned to torque bump, specifically a better looking bump than any EL header has dyno'd previously on these cars.
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...59&postcount=3

But that one has the advantage of never being released, ever. It's the half life 3 of headers.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:14 AM   #16
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where did you get them from and would they be able to go on my stock car other than the exhaust ? i dont know if it would be compatible with my axleback Greddy SP Elite
Nameless parts all fit in the same exact spots as stock so they'll work with any parts that also have stock fitments. Also, Nameless doesn't make a midpipe, which is what your axleback connects to.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:30 AM   #17
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You do know that had a full aftermarket exhaust, compared to only the borla uel on the other car.

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So, lot of back and forth on EL vs UEL. I'd like to pull the trigger on header+exhaust this year, but was kind of sold on the UEL (for the sweet, sweet rumble). How much real/tangible difference am I looking at between EL vs UEL? No tune yet, but would likely do header, then over/mid, then exhaust, then tune.

I used to just do everything at the same time. But doing it all at once kinda takes the fun out of progression!
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:33 PM   #19
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So, lot of back and forth on EL vs UEL. I'd like to pull the trigger on header+exhaust this year, but was kind of sold on the UEL (for the sweet, sweet rumble). How much real/tangible difference am I looking at between EL vs UEL? No tune yet, but would likely do header, then over/mid, then exhaust, then tune.

I used to just do everything at the same time. But doing it all at once kinda takes the fun out of progression!
I think you mean front pipe, not mid pipe...
This is what I did. Went header back exhaust, then headers, then tune. I went from back to front. I'd like to see/find out more on front to back... that is, headers, then progress backwards...
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OP I have same concerns as you.

Currently I have the Perrin non res catback. I want to get headers but dont really want to buy the overpipe and front pipe yet. Just wondering if it would even be worth it.

I was also wondering if my car would still pass emissions with the stock front pipe w/catalitic converter even if I have a custom non catted header? Technically the car will still have 1 catalytic converter.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:27 PM   #21
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OP I have same concerns as you.

Currently I have the Perrin non res catback. I want to get headers but dont really want to buy the overpipe and front pipe yet. Just wondering if it would even be worth it.

I was also wondering if my car would still pass emissions with the stock front pipe w/catalitic converter even if I have a custom non catted header? Technically the car will still have 1 catalytic converter.
my concern as well im a Daily Driver so passing the emissions test is vital so anything to jeopardize that is definitely a negative
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:31 PM   #22
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my concern as well im a Daily Driver so passing the emissions test is vital so anything to jeopardize that is definitely a negative
I also have the SP Elite axleback. That is the only exhaust upgrade for me thus far. Really great looking piece, albeit not a major increase in airflow/volume. I'm hoping this will allow me to upgrade some other components of the exhaust chain without getting too obnoxious or raspy.

I just ordered the RevWorks uel header on Monday, and am looking into changing the front pipe and over pipe to the Nameless 2.5" front/over pipe combo (one piece instead of two, less welds/bends etc). I've *read* that it helps fill in that often-cited torque dip as well. So I think the uel header coupled with the Nameless unit would be a nice little bump in power (as stated, a tune is a must, if you want to get the most out of these products). I'm just waiting for parts to arrive and therefore can't verify any of my claims, so take them with a big old grain of salt

As for emissions, I'm in NY as well (upstate). Another member posted recently that new NY vehicles aren't tested for emissions when you get your car inspected, (during the first 2 years, that is). I'll have to look into this, but that'd be great if true.
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Also, to add to my post: all those items are meant to align to stock fitments, which is always helpful
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Taken from NY DMV page:

"These motor vehicles are exempt from the OBDII and low-enhanced emissions inspection:

Vehicles that are less than two model years old (formula: model year is greater than or equal to calendar year minus one)."

http://www.dmv.ny.gov/vehsafe.htm#einspect

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Old 07-17-2013, 03:14 PM   #25
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Taken from NY DMV page:

"These motor vehicles are exempt from the OBDII and low-enhanced emissions inspection:

Vehicles that are less than two model years old (formula: model year is greater than or equal to calendar year minus one)."

http://www.dmv.ny.gov/vehsafe.htm#einspect
thats awesome man i want to do the exact same thing as you how much did it run you total with the set up and combo overpipe and front pipe? i think that as long as we have one cat either in the front pipe or whereever we should be okay , at least one cat should hopefully be enough idk tho =( can anyone help us out with this damn emissions crap lol does the front pipe and overpipe combo have a cat ? or maybe the stock midpipe does i think
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thats awesome man i want to do the exact same thing as you how much did it run you total with the set up and combo overpipe and front pipe? i think that as long as we have one cat either in the front pipe or whereever we should be okay , at least one cat should hopefully be enough idk tho =( can anyone help us out with this damn emissions crap lol does the front pipe and overpipe combo have a cat ? or maybe the stock midpipe does i think
Yea I'd like a definitive answer, too. Im just going by what I've read.

For what I mentioned, the RevWorks uel is $699, and the Nameless piece is $499 ( http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...aces-overpipe/ ). I've already had the SP Elite for a while, forgot what I paid. The Ecutek tune is the priciest part; $750 when all is said and done (through a local tuner). Lastly, I'm adding a drop-in filter while I'm at it (only ~ $50).

The Nameless unit has a high-flow cat. I don't believe the OEM midpipe is catted, but it is at least resonated (in case you are concerned about exhaust rasp). I will be keeping the midpipe stock, most likely.

.....side note: i'd love to hear a sound clip if someone has this same exhaust setup
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:05 AM   #27
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Hey Buddy, let me know if you have any questions i can help answer about our header. It does bolt up to a stock overpipe without any issues as i know you had mentioned you were still on factory exhaust before the axleback.

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