Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll.

[BadMoon]

Just got back from the family vacation. Damn I missed my car. However the dealership called me on Wednesday and wanted to know what type of gas I'm using, what type of driver I am, and how the ethanol free worked out. I answer his questions and he said his Toyota rep assured him they are working hard to fix the issue.

So I'm not sure why some keep coming in here and assuming Toyota doesn't care or they aren't interested in fixing it? Seems at least to me that they are very aware of it and are working hard on a fix. I'm no engineer but I can guess that a fix isn't something that happens over night. If it was I'm sure someone else would have figured it out.

Just be patient and hang in there. It's a minor annoyance at most. :happy0180:

[Gixxersixxerman]

I laugh at the people that keep going back.. Hahahaha I laugh at you.. I think you people are not all that smart.. It's like lets go and get a pump that's the same pump and maybe we won't get the noise

BTW 20k miles, SoCal 91 with 10% ethanol and maybe I hear crickets sometimes.. Also countless days at the track and autoX..

Still I laugh at you guys.. Thanks

[BadMoon]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I laugh at the people that keep going back.. Hahahaha I laugh at you.. I think you people are not all that smart.. It's like lets go and get a pump that's the same pump and maybe we won't get the noise

BTW 20k miles, SoCal 91 with 10% ethanol and maybe I hear crickets sometimes.. Also countless days at the track and autoX..

Still I laugh at you guys.. Thanks

I have to agree. Getting the pump replaced time and time again is only wasting said persons time.

The rationale is "Well I'll show them. I paid for a new car and I want a new car". The second part I agree with. However, they can't shit out a fix right now. I told the guy to call me when there was a fix. I let him know after I got mine replaced that my time and I'm sure their time is important. No sense in wasting everyone's time until Toyota comes up with a fix.

Now that said if 6 months goes by or something crazy and I hear nothing I will be a little less patient. I understand its a new car and is going to have issues. Everyone that buys a brand new car in its first year should expect the same. Just ask all the Ford Escape owners that bought the 2013 model. I have one of those as well and I hear they have been recalled already for a to of stuff.

Patience is key. Acting like an immature child that wants a cooking won't cut it.

[CircuitJerk]

I LOL'd!
I see it a little differently since we have those people to thank for going through the the process.
While it may seem pointless, it has to be instrumental in moving toward a resolution.
I still can't bring myself to go through that just yet as I have anxiety issues letting any dealership porter or mechanic near my car unless absolutely necessary.

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

I have to agree. Getting the pump replaced time and time again is only wasting said persons time.

The rationale is "Well I'll show them. I paid for a new car and I want a new car". The second part I agree with. However, they can't shit out a fix right now. I told the guy to call me when there was a fix. I let him know after I got mine replaced that my time and I'm sure their time is important. No sense in wasting everyone's time until Toyota comes up with a fix.

Now that said if 6 months goes by or something crazy and I hear nothing I will be a little less patient. I understand its a new car and is going to have issues. Everyone that buys a brand new car in its first year should expect the same. Just ask all the Ford Escape owners that bought the 2013 model. I have one of those as well and I hear they have been recalled already for a to of stuff.

Patience is key. Acting like an immature child that wants a cooking won't cut it.

I know two people that have been over 6 times.. And bitch about the missing of work and stuff.. I laugh at them.. I totally get the whole wanting a cricket free car.. I do... But even if I got the crickets now, I'd still wait till a pump that was updated came out, not fix it when I know that, ethanol, is the most likely problem and I can't get ethanol free fuel.. And they would be back.. Like I said I'm sooooo lucky, I don't have the problems but every once in awhile and it's barely noticeable when it is there.. But that might be because of the greddy evo3 and I just can't hear them??? Maybe??? Or they are not there or super quiet

[BadMoon]

I did it once just so they had record of my issue and complaint. I understand if people want to take it in to get the official fix and go through the motions. It's the repeated attempts. The one that really got me was the guy who's dealership told him there was no fix and yet he keeps going back and is complaining about having to take time out to do it.

[Khazzy]

5506 miles in, no crickets, 91 non ethanol as 93 is 10% only here in Nebraska. I strongly believe that gas is culprit of cricket issues people have. Bad gas, ethanol enriched gas, or just cheap gas is the problem in my opinion. But what do I know, I do not have a degree in online car analysis lol.

[JDM FRS]

I ran on my second pump for about 900 miles within no crickets, this morning I noticed them. I have only been using Shell 91 but just drove from San Diego to Monterey and maybe the shells in different areas use different gas? Now I'm at 1k miles since the pump swap and the. Crickets go away every once in a while and come right back

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[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

So, I've been told by two different people (one a good friend that loves to work on cars and knows a lot about them, the other a relative that owns an auto shop and does work on cars every day all day) that the crickets should be coming from the rear of my car, not the front, as the fuel pump should be located back there, not under the hood. The noise is quite clearly coming from under the hood and has gotten worse over time. Can anyone confirm the location of the fuel pump for this car? And why, if the pump is in the back, the noise comes from the front? Could it be the injectors instead?

There is a HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) that runs off one of the camshafts or crankshaft in the (don't exactly remeber) there is also a second electric one partly submerged in the gas tank. The high pressure one is the one that squeaks.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by SilentMike

Hmmmm. Has anyone tried acoustically insulating the pump? I wonder if a wrap or enclosure would cause the pump to over heat?

Mike

Does the pump need any sort of cooling or does it stay the same temperature throughout? Otherwise that seems kind of ok.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice

In Japan, regular = 90-91 and high octane = 100.

BUT

How they measure is different from how U.S. measures.
U.S. 87 is similar to JP 91
U.S. 89 is similar to JP 95
U.S. 91-93 is similar to JP 98-100

So, if you look at their numbers and our numbers, it looks like their gas have higher octanes, but they really aren't.

Originally Posted by sierra

They are the same as yours.
As I understand it we use RON and you use AKI and these are the equivalents.

AKI 87 = RON 91
AKI 91 = RON 95
AKI 93 = RON 98

I've only ever seen E5, might have ben E10? once and that was in Tasmania and i'm sure it was 91octane[RON]

I've never heard crickets mentioned in Japan and I don't think they use ethanol much there either.

But the real question is how much ethanol percentage?

[sierra]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

But the real question is how much ethanol percentage?

"I've only ever seen E5, might have been E10? once and that was in Tasmania and i'm sure it was 91octane[RON]"

It's clearly marked when it has any ethanol as either E5 or E10 and it's very rare to see that anywhere. This is for Australia.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

Now that said if 6 months goes by or something crazy and I hear nothing I will be a little less patient. I understand its a new car and is going to have issues. Everyone that buys a brand new car in its first year should expect the same. Just ask all the Ford Escape owners that bought the 2013 model. I have one of those as well and I hear they have been recalled already for a to of stuff.

Patience is key. Acting like an immature child that wants a cooking won't cut it.

Have you noticed that this thread started over a year ago?

[BadMoon]

Originally Posted by sierra

Have you noticed that this thread started over a year ago?

I'm well aware of that. So what?