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Old 07-10-2013, 11:51 PM   #1
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Stage 7 Complete!

Just thought I'd jump on the badwagon and let everyone know I just installed my shift knob and now my Stage 7 mods are complete.


Figure I'll get to FI around Stage 26.


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Haha I dislike when people use "stages" to describe the mods they've done to their cars as well.

Intake = stage 1? Intake + cat-back exhaust = stage 2? What if it's an axle-back? Stage 1.5?
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Since when do mods go in order?

If at any common sense is post to be used in modding, if your going to add power then upgrade the brakes. Its annoying to see VW running more boost and using stock brakes...and then they wonder why their torque steer wrapped them around the tree.
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Haha I dislike when people use "stages" to describe the mods they've done to their cars as well.

Intake = stage 1? Intake + cat-back exhaust = stage 2? What if it's an axle-back? Stage 1.5?
My thoughts exactly.... who determines the appropriate arbitrary number?

How can Stage 1 be a catback and drop in but then also be a turbo kit.


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If at any common sense is post to be used in modding, if your going to add power then upgrade the brakes. Its annoying to see VW running more boost and using stock brakes...and then they wonder why their torque steer wrapped them around the tree.
As for the brake argument. I'm a proponent of upgrading brakes, don't get me wrong, but I've never understood the point of view that upgrading power also needs to mean upgrading brakes...

I mean, in my mind, let's say I go with the AVO turbo. A solid power increase. But it's a DD, I'd like to track it but I don't have any experience and, at the moment, time. So I may accelerate faster when I feel 'frisky' but I haven't added any significant weight to the car and I've not increased my top speed nor am I spending any time near the current top speed. I'd like to also upgrade my brakes but for the purposes of tracking my car NOT because at 250whp my current brakes are all of the sudden made of paper mache.
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My thoughts exactly.... who determines the appropriate arbitrary number?

How can Stage 1 be a catback and drop in but then also be a turbo kit.




As for the brake argument. I'm a proponent of upgrading brakes, don't get me wrong, but I've never understood the point of view that upgrading power also needs to mean upgrading brakes...

I mean, in my mind, let's say I go with the AVO turbo. A solid power increase. But it's a DD, I'd like to track it but I don't have any experience and, at the moment, time. So I may accelerate faster when I feel 'frisky' but I haven't added any significant weight to the car and I've not increased my top speed nor am I spending any time near the current top speed. I'd like to also upgrade my brakes but for the purposes of tracking my car NOT because at 250whp my current brakes are all of the sudden made of paper mache.
You're still accelerating faster, if you had a 0-60 time of 6.0 secs and then you added power and its at 5.0 secs then you have increased the power quite a lot in a small car, even a small increase of 50 WHP is a lot is a "light" weight car like this. Stock brakes won't be as adequate with increased power, even if your not going to track your car. Not saying anyone has to go with a full brake kit and etc, but upgrades pads and tires can go a long way.


Also if i'm doing the same sort of autocrossing and i'm getting to the corner faster then i did stock, the brakes will take more of a beating, so they should be upgraded.
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You're still accelerating faster, if you had a 0-60 time of 6.0 secs and then you added power and its at 5.0 secs then you have increased the power quite a lot in a small car, even a small increase of 50 WHP is a lot is a "light" weight car like this. Stock brakes won't be as adequate with increased power, even if your not going to track your car. Not saying anyone has to go with a full brake kit and etc, but upgrades pads and tires can go a long way.
You should upgrade the brakes if you're driving significantly faster, you've made it significantly heavier, or you're braking much more often (spending time tracking your car where brake fade is likely). It doesn't matter how fast you got to 60, if you're not braking more frequently and the car is relatively the same weight it's not a change to braking conditions.
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Stickers are the key to moving up stages quickly. You're all doing it wrong.
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Stock brakes won't be as adequate with increased power, even if your not going to track your car.
Why? Do you floor the gas pedal with the car in gear every time you are braking? How does power have anything to do with braking performance?

When you've pushed the clutch in and you're braking, it doesn't matter if your engine has 50 horsepower or 500 horsepower, the engine is doing anything.

Sure, if you're racing, you will have your brakes fade sooner simply because more power means that you're reaching higher speeds before the onset of braking, but that's a situation that's only going to happen on a track.

Grippier tires, if anything, are going to do a whole lot more for braking performance in street driving than any big brake upgrades. Stock brakes are capable of locking up the stock tires, you think that bigger brakes could somehow do anything better than that? Only reason for them is that they'll laste longer before fading due to heat, and that's a track problem.
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