FBM Tuning fixed my issue, FA20 and Visconti didn't work as well

[dsmx17]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Nice work n00b. In case you haven't learned yet, EcuTek is only tuneable by tuners. They don't trust the end user to tune their own car which really pisses me off.

Or pony up and pay to be a master tuner? How the hell excatly do you think people like visconti got into it?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by dsmx17

Or pony up and pay to be a master tuner? How the hell excatly do you think people like visconti got into it?

I know how Visconti got into it. I also considered starting my own shop, and I contacted EcuTek to see about becoming a tuner and got pricing for it.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Anyway, I'm gonna dip out on this whole thread now. I do my own tuning anyway so i can be as particular as i like with my car.

I still may switch to BRZedit at one point and tune my own car as well. I appreciate your inputs.

[dsmx17]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I know how Visconti got into it. I also considered starting my own shop, and I contacted EcuTek to see about becoming a tuner and got pricing for it.

Or better yet, everyone can wait untill AEM releases a plug and play infinity EMS with DI control.....one day....

[Ross]

There are a couple higher end stand alone manufacturers getting the di control strategies worked out, as well as the same pcm / ecm having regular port injector control as well. Both have made mention of properly controlling the fa20 motor at one point or time. Unfortunately nether system will be budget based.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Thanks for your knowledge and input.

Originally Posted by King Tut

I still may switch to BRZedit at one point and tune my own car as well. I appreciate your inputs.

No worries guys, i sometimes get overzelous with how i think things should be tuned and i feel like there are a lot of folks in this community that are new to the car and tuning scene so like to try and help, but I also need to give people room to do things the way the want so...

Originally Posted by s2d4

can you answer your own question please? Sorry, I have no idea what the answer is..

tuned for 11.5:1 +10% will put you near 10.5:1 (loose power) -10% will put you near 12.5:1 (too lean under boost with high comp motor). Neither is good IMO.

Just want to be clear that I have not been trying to bash anyone, i don't think either Toni or LJ have had enough time to sort out the tune, I've just been trying to make the point that more work is needed.

I figured i should post one of my logs since i have been expressing my discontent with others fuel trims.

This is from the drive home today, my own E85 tune.

Alright, now I'm out lol....

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Ross

There are a couple higher end stand alone manufacturers getting the di control strategies worked out, as well as the same pcm / ecm having regular port injector control as well. Both have made mention of properly controlling the fa20 motor at one point or time. Unfortunately nether system will be budget based.

It is my understanding that the Hydra EMS allows for control of the DI system. It definitely is not budget based.

[Toma]

@mad_sb

Totally understandable, but I find myself wondering if the stock tune is that bad, with Subarus billions, and resources, and they messed up a MAF airflow model??

Make me wonder if there is more going on than we "see" or think.

[Ross]

The systems I am referring to make hydra appear to be budget based. For engine management Hydra is an affordable option. Many systems cost much more then the 1900 or so plus options. I had read somewhere syvecs was working on a system that should be able to control the fa20 as well as motec (again I had read it on the internet and not everything you read is true or gets followed through on), and I am sure others will as well over time. Right now the only 2 ems options out side of reworking the factory ecu that I know of are Haltech and Hydra, but I have not been looking much into it as the factory ecu works well.

[zc06_kisstherain]

I am just glad that problem is fixed to Will.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by Toma

@mad_sb

Totally understandable, but I find myself wondering if the stock tune is that bad, with Subarus billions, and resources, and they messed up a MAF airflow model??

Make me wonder if there is more going on than we "see" or think.

Yeah, i hear you for sure. The hybrid fuel system really complicates the trims on this car. I spent a fair amount of time dialing everything in on E85. To really get a handle on the trims, you have to adjust each system as well as the global compensation tables. The only change I made to the maf table was at idle and above 3.5 volts to get the fuel map values close to the actual afr.

@whitefrs whats the latest?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

@whitefrs whats the latest?

This. I forgot to take a look at your logs last night, but I still can.

[whitefrs]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Yeah, i hear you for sure. The hybrid fuel system really complicates the trims on this car. I spent a fair amount of time dialing everything in on E85. To really get a handle on the trims, you have to adjust each system as well as the global compensation tables. The only change I made to the maf table was at idle and above 3.5 volts to get the fuel map values close to the actual afr.

@whitefrs whats the latest?

Dyno tune coming soon

[whitefrs]

Originally Posted by King Tut

This. I forgot to take a look at your logs last night, but I still can.

Lol
It happens
Yea man check them out and lmk