Anyone Else Considering an Automatic FR-S?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Why would I be shifting mid corner?

Pretty common on the track and the street. I shift mid corner all the time, but only at the redline on track. You have to pay attention to weight transfer but it's not that big of a deal with a manual.

I personally love manual transmissions. I enjoy being that much more involved and I don't care about the time/speed I'm losing. From a tech perspective the manual is pointless, but for many drivers out there (obviously not all) the manual transmission is far from pointless.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by oneday

Well, I never mentioned mid-corner gear changes, but since you asked:
That's the beauty of a smooth, fast automatic/sequential: Less momentum/weight shift during gear changes....while you have to worry about weight transfer due to clutch disengagement, I can click off another gear (up or down) to be in the meat of the power band all of the time and gain a speed advantage while navigating the Climbing Esses at VIR, through the esses at exit of the Octopus at NJMP, down the Corkscrew/Little Bend at Shenandoah, or through the esses at Road Atlanta. Just to name a few off the top of my head.

Hopefully you'll be faster in the esses than your teammates were!

[poormans_LFA]

while i know how to drive stick i'm not sure i want to deal w/ the extra effort. call me lazy, w/e. my personal preference. it would be cool if FHI and/or Toyota came up w/ a super compact flushable dual clutch setup.i

[Syldrin]

i think the only way i'd consider an auto is if i got a serious case of plantar fascitis.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by blur

Considering manual is still cheaper to buy and fix, and more fun to drive, there's a good reason it has been around since the inception of the automobile. Automatics will be useless to electric cars, and there's no reason a manufacturer won't build manuals anymore especially if there's demand.

I actually like the idea of CVT, it's a much better solution IMO than an auto.

Thank you Toyota and Subaru for making a proper automatic one that was sourced from the is-f and not the crappy cvt from the Prius!

Hehe!

[DRACHENV6]

Originally Posted by syldrin

i think the only way i'd consider an auto is if i got a serious case of plantar fascitis.

^lol. or peroneal nerve damage causing foot drop?

My only gripe is that it is rare to see an oem auto hold power reliably, even in cars that are regarded as high hp kings (supra). My friend's supra is supposedly limited to ~400-450hp due to the weakest link(auto tranny) while the manuals are throwing insane power. I dont know how much power a 6sp auto based on the ISF design will handle, but until proven reliable I am going to assume [manual + power] >> [auto + power]. Of course handling and proper driving are king, but I think both are pretty evenly matched in that category (assuming the auto in manual mode is legit).

The manuals are more fun when you get in the zone + more potential fun, while the autos are very convenient and allow for that paddle-shifting compromise that is better than regular autos. Decisions...

[tranzformer]

Manual = not every friend or family member being able to take your new AS1 for a spin. (assuming most don't know how to drive a manual).

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Manual = not every friend or family member being able to take your new AS1 for a spin. (assuming most don't know how to drive a manual).

that's part of the reason why (i'm sure) people are buying more autos than sticks; they just simply don't know how and/or don't have anyone to teach them.

in my experience most of the people i know that drive a third pedal are too afraid to teach anyone on it for the worry of damage to their car. makes sense, but doesn't help the enthusiast crowd any, because at the end of the day it's about numbers, and if not enough sticks are being sold then obviously they're gonna make what's gonna sell.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

that's part of the reason why (i'm sure) people are buying more autos than sticks; they just simply don't know how and/or don't have anyone to teach them.

in my experience most of the people i know that drive a third pedal are too afraid to teach anyone on it for the worry of damage to their car. makes sense, but doesn't help the enthusiast crowd any, because at the end of the day it's about numbers, and if not enough sticks are being sold then obviously they're gonna make what's gonna sell.

Assuming manual has to be a custom order from the dealer, then there's a great chance no one else will be able to test drive your car.

[DRACHENV6]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Manual = not every friend or family member being able to take your new AS1 for a spin. (assuming most don't know how to drive a manual).

^Amen brother. That used to be a problem for me until I showed my fiance pics of the car. She thinks it's ugly and refuses to drive it.

I am still going to test the auto and manual before deciding which to buy (assuming the rest of the car is okay) because I dont want to miss out on what could be a good thing because of being close-minded.

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by ayau

Assuming manual has to be a custom order from the dealer, then there's a great chance no one else will be able to test drive your car.

another upshot of owning a stick would be low theft rate for all the losers that feel they need to take what's your but don't know how to drive a stick.

[DRACHENV6]

Originally Posted by ayau

Assuming manual has to be a custom order from the dealer, then there's a great chance no one else will be able to test drive your car.

I think the manual will be the base option and an auto will be +$1k. They'll bank on everyone buying the automatic (which always happens), and make mad $. I also have a feeling that it would be easier to resell a sporty car that is a manual because of that increased sportiness.

[fitftw]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

another upshot of owning a stick would be low theft rate for all the losers that feel they need to take what's your but don't know how to drive a stick.

This is the best part about owning a stick. I'm going to change my ways starting now. EVERYONE GO BUY AUTOMATICS, leave the stickshifts to me. Enjoy having your cars stolen because you're lazy

Part of me doesn't want a GT86 anymore because it seems the majority of people who will be buying one will opt for the automatics, and I don't want to be part of that. It's like, where are the GT86 enthusiasts coming from? Scion tC's and Celicas? Ugh. If this was a new Honda or Mazda rear-driver, I guarantee there wouldn't be so much talk of automatic transmissions.

[RYU]

Originally Posted by fitftw

Part of me doesn't want a GT86 anymore because it seems the majority of people who will be buying one will opt for the automatics, and I don't want to be part of that. It's like, where are the GT86 enthusiasts coming from? Scion tC's and Celicas? Ugh. If this was a new Honda or Mazda rear-driver, I guarantee there wouldn't be so much talk of automatic transmissions.

wow, this is simply absurd on so many levels...

i hope you're joking.