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Old 07-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #617
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Like making ice in the basement of a skyscraper at night when the electricity is cheaper instead of running the AC all day.
why do you post?
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:18 PM   #618
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why do you post?
What's your problem? You described storing electricity when it's cheaper and the demand is reduced and I gave a simple example to indicate I got the point.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:34 PM   #619
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ya I think I read something about that - the computer reads that there is over 5psi or something and throws a CEL?
I think this is the post you were looking for.

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It appears i may have reached the limits of a NA tune, going WOT at VERY low RPM's causes (P0108 - MAP Pressure Circuit High Input).

It seems the map i am running may know that 4.6psi is not what it is suppose to see.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:52 PM   #620
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I'm sure I saw a post from one of you northerners griping about the gas. Does the availability of high octane vary from province to province?
Does it vary from state to state?

Do you realize that me and Fenton have never met and that we live ~5000 kms (3000 miles) from each other? And that neither of us are at a far east or west end of our country?
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:19 PM   #621
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Does it vary from state to state?

Do you realize that me and Fenton have never met and that we live ~5000 kms (3000 miles) from each other? And that neither of us are at a far east or west end of our country?
FWIW, everyone else in the country considers you to be at the far east.
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Does it vary from state to state?
Yes, but that doesn't mean you guys have the same problem.

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Do you realize that me and Fenton have never met and that we live ~5000 kms (3000 miles) from each other? And that neither of us are at a far east or west end of our country?
Didn't notice either point, and don't understand what they have to do with my not knowing what gas is available in Calgary.
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:13 PM   #623
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Looking great! Did you log IAT at all? I wonder how hot it gets at these boost levels.
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Base intake temp: fairly stable 81F.

Several low rpm 3.5- 3.8 psi pulls, peak 132 F

Several high rpm pulls 1.25 - 2 psi, peak 104 F


Ambient 65F.

Vehicle: 2012 4.3L V6

Device: small LCD temp display (~0.5 second rate).

Fenton's will be the same.
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:43 PM   #624
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Like making ice in the basement of a skyscraper at night when the electricity is cheaper instead of running the AC all day.
Good point. You could actually also produce ice (at low power demand) for an intake-air-cooler which you would then only use at full throttle (denser air and more aggressive timing).
These guys were able to almost double the torque with a cold intercooler:
http://www.are.com.au/Big%20HP/Dry%2...%20cooling.htm (dry ice though).
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:52 PM   #625
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I'm not much at reading dyno graphs yet.. noobish I know. Did this match/beat/compare to the vortech kit?
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:10 PM   #626
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Thanks for the info.
I wonder at what point some water injection or intercooling becomes necessary... it's more like 110F ambient here

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Several low rpm 3.5- 3.8 psi pulls, peak 132 F
Several high rpm pulls 1.25 - 2 psi, peak 104 F
Ambient 65F.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:13 PM   #627
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I might have to throw one of these on my Cobalt and Versa also
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:32 PM   #629
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If these take off like I hope they do, I might have to throw one on everything with an engine and alternator. I'd be pumped to see 5psi till redline. Wish I had a MAP, ESC, and motor laying around. Might get bored and tinker till the FRS specific kits are production ready.

Edit: I'm bored. Went ahead and ordered parts.

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Fenton 168HP 205.7HP 37.7HP

Fenton 131 ft-lbs 185 ft-lbs 54 ft-lbs


Note: This is just comparing output, stands to reason with the base being similar...so are the gains.

Of course, again, this system behaves more like nitrous with a refill function. But it is overall far simpler.

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