Twins vs Genesis Coupe from the perspective of GC owners

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by pmdc

... a speeding ticket here nets you a 7 day suspension of your license...

WTF

[pmdc]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

WTF

Yup. 90 days after the conviction you lose it for 7 days. Ridiculous. If they let you off with the minimum ticket, there is no suspension, but it's still over $250 to pay the fine. So if I get a ticket over the miminum (which they can give at, I believe, 11km over the limit) I'm out over $1500. If I'm in uniform I'll probably get let off or reduced to the minimum, but I have to be very careful where I choose to have some fun.

[Brzetto]

Switchlanez better put on a fucking fire suit because those GC people are going to flame him like Mount Kilauea

[Embarrassed]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

Not sure if everyone is oblivious to this,

Not sure why you don't want to believe it, but 10% change in cog all else being equal can be barely felt from the drivers seat by even the most talented drivers. If significant enough, it can sometimes (but often not) be seen in lap times. Typically it's a tiny improvement and unless seconds over an hour is significant, cog is a gimmick. Subaru advertisments playing up cog are a gimmick. Subaru adds that lead you to believe that it is primarily becuase of the boxer engine are an outright lie (Any 3rd year mechanical engineering student can sit down run the calcs and confirm that)

Originally Posted by ST185RC

Holy shit, we've all been tricked into thinking that low CoG (99.9% of the time betters a car's handling on a typical street road or race track)

The majority of the time, CoG is changed it is changed along with some else (like stiffer lowering springs). It is the something else that is giving you the vast majority of the noted benefit. You have been tricked into thinking it is the cog.

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[bkblitzed]

the gen coupe isn't all that great. My 04 STi put those in shame in autox and on canyon roads.

[Burrcold]

I had a 3.8 GenCoupe with every option. Much like when I bought a G35 Coupe new back in '04, I really liked it. However, as time went on the little issues piled up. Still a decent car for the money, but definitely suffering from an identity crisis.

The BRZ just felt so much more defined as a sports car. It tries to be nothing that it isn't. And that's exactly what I like so much about it.

[powerj2]

I said it before and ill say it again;

You can alway add power to a good chassis.
But you can't add a good chassis to power

[Dazza]

Originally Posted by Embarrassed

Not sure why you don't want to believe it, but 10% change in cog all else being equal can be barely felt from the drivers seat by even the most talented drivers. If significant enough, it can sometimes (but often not) be seen in lap times. Typically it's a tiny improvement and unless seconds over an hour is significant, cog is a gimmick.

Do you have some resources to back this up? I find it hard to believe that the effects are as small as you are implying. Nevetheless I look forward to being enlightened

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

I liken the Gen goupes more to the Camaro and the Mustang than the twins. If I had to choose between the three? I'd choose the Gen.

As for why I got the BRZ compared to the Gen twin? I never could find a manual 3.8 to test drive and the dealer here in Chattanooga completely ignored me when I would come in looking for what I wanted. So, I never got to compare... But from what I heard the clutch would have been a HUGE pain point and I also imagine that the car would have had a "heavy" feel like a 370Z/G37. I like the light nimble feeling I get in the BRZ.

I agree. a co-worker just got a 2.0T 13 premium. I like the car overall. Nice, good looking(minus the fake hood vents and the ugly nose grill) and it seems quick. He is an old man(55) and was babying the car. When I bought my FR-S the 13 gen coupes just came out. I narrowed my choices between a 2.0T R-Spec and a FR-S/BRZ but I could not find them any where. Plus one dealer completely blew me off for the 2.0T Gen Coupe. So I ended up with the FR-S because I know now in one word racecar vs sporty car

[Symmetrical]

Originally Posted by powerj2

I said it before and ill say it again;

You can alway add power to a good chassis.
But you can't add a good chassis to power

Amen. The Subaru Engineer said the exact same thing. Tuners will always modify the heck out of their cars, but it's the job of the manufacture to make the base and chassis as good as possible. Something that can't be modified.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

Switchlanez better put on a fucking fire suit because those GC people are going to flame him like Mount Kilauea

It's ok, I thrive in the fire. Would be nice if some brave souls joined in as fellow 86 ambassadors.

[br_z1Lch]

How many Corvette LS2 have been put in a Genesis chassis? on another note, I parked WAY out in a parking lot tonite, and when I was leaving, a Genesis was waiting for my "don't ding me bro" spot. Nonetheless I gave him a thumbs up, and he returned it. I enjoy all cars, but chose to drive the BRZ after much consideration. The reason I chose BRZ:

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

It's ok, I thrive in the fire. Would be nice if some brave souls joined in as fellow 86 ambassadors.

more like intruders. no point in going there starting shit. it'd be annoying if 5 gen guys came here just to bash our car and promote theirs.

my old roommate has a gen, he's a prick but the car is cool I guess. felt really numb IMO. no regrets getting the FRS. but that GCM or whatever the hell his name is at the gencoupe forum, is as e-thug and bench racing as they come. (claiming to drive just about every super car ever) psshhh

[thill]

Originally Posted by Celica00

more like intruders. no point in going there starting shit. it'd be annoying if 5 gen guys came here just to bash our car and promote theirs.

my old roommate has a gen, he's a prick but the car is cool I guess. felt really numb IMO. no regrets getting the FRS. but that GCM or whatever the hell his name is at the gencoupe forum, is as e-thug and bench racing as they come. (claiming to drive just about every super car ever) psshhh

GCP? Yeah, he ended up promising to build intake and blow off valves for people, took their money, and then disappeared from the forum. Guy was a dirtbag.

And I really don't advocate joining another forum just to troll. Better to just let it go, it is a no win situation.