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Old 06-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #253
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Other than cargo space. The S2000 is superior in every way.
I don't fit. Not that superior.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #254
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I don't fit. Not that superior.
Oh yeah? You look pretty tiny in your avatar.
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Oh yeah? You look pretty tiny in your avatar.
Can't reach the pedals, or see over the dash
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Oh yeah? You look pretty tiny in your avatar.
I sit on a phonebook and use wood blocks to reach the pedals lol
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I sit on a phonebook and use wood blocks to reach the pedals lol
Or you could sit on my lap?
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Before this gets completely out of hand, I'm 6'5" and thats my gun toting psychotic girlfriend
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #261
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I always thought that was an image from a movie, like a Pulp Fiction type of movie. No joke.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:09 PM   #262
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Sooo, I just read through all 13 pages of this thread and the current OEM fix action is to update to a modified map that retards timing in the RPM range that this symptom occurs. Is that about it? I'm a bear of very little brain so I just want to sort this out.

So if the OEM fix action is to modify the base tune then can I hope/assume that tuners like Visconti, Dynotronics, and FA20 can also easily adjust their tunes for this?

I think I read somewhere that a tuner might miss this condition because the person logging would have to shift the car in a manner that would replicate the issue and that subsequently be captured in the logs with a correlation between the shift and the knock. Something that could be easily done with street logging but not necessarily done while shifting on a dyno. Is that correct?

I'm really curious to hear from tuners on if they are seeing these symptoms in the logs they are receiving from customers and what their respective adjustments/advice is.

I don't have the fireworks or knock just yet and I see no point in getting the dealer map when my tuner can just adjust fire for this scenario just as well.

Please correct me if I'm waaaay off course.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:10 PM   #263
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Brought my car into McDaniel Subaru in Columbia, SC today. June of last year delivery BRZ with almost 17K miles on it. The first one that my aforementioned dealer received. First time that it has been there for any service.

Printed out these service bulletins, since the service person that I talked to on the phone at the dealer told me that only their technicians have access to the service bulletins, and asked for them to look into the following:

02-138-12 Asked for them to check that the car had the latest ECM programming. Told them about the popping that I've been hearing.
11-130-13 Asked for them to look into the idle drop that I've been experiencing.
15-158-12 Told them that I was getting continuous loss of signal.
12-131-12 Told them that I have had considerable condensation in both tail lights, and that i had photos. They never asked for the photos.

Took their loaner and drove away. Received a call just over an hour later from the service manager. Told me bluntly, "Your car is done." I told him that seemed fast. He replied, "Nothing is wrong with you car."

I started by asking him about the taillights. He told me that there was no condensation in them, and that they weren't cracked, and that they would need photos. He also told me that he had 3 sets of lights delivered, but would have to order more. I assume because they've replaced other tail lights already?

I told him that I had photos and had offered the photos to them, and he then told me that he would only replace the seals. At that point I saw that we were getting nowhere, told him that I would be there at 5:30 to pick up the car and hung up. Then called the 1-800-Subaru3 number and explained the situation. Very professional person at Subaru on the other end who took my issues down and told me that he would be calling the dealer.

Should be a fun time when I get there to pick up the car at 5:30
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Brought my car into McDaniel Subaru in Columbia, SC today. June of last year delivery BRZ with almost 17K miles on it. The first one that my aforementioned dealer received. First time that it has been there for any service.

Printed out these service bulletins, since the service person that I talked to on the phone at the dealer told me that only their technicians have access to the service bulletins, and asked for them to look into the following:

02-138-12 Asked for them to check that the car had the latest ECM programming. Told them about the popping that I've been hearing.
11-130-13 Asked for them to look into the idle drop that I've been experiencing.
15-158-12 Told them that I was getting continuous loss of signal.
12-131-12 Told them that I have had considerable condensation in both tail lights, and that i had photos. They never asked for the photos.

Took their loaner and drove away. Received a call just over an hour later from the service manager. Told me bluntly, "Your car is done." I told him that seemed fast. He replied, "Nothing is wrong with you car."

I started by asking him about the taillights. He told me that there was no condensation in them, and that they weren't cracked, and that they would need photos. He also told me that he had 3 sets of lights delivered, but would have to order more. I assume because they've replaced other tail lights already?

I told him that I had photos and had offered the photos to them, and he then told me that he would only replace the seals. At that point I saw that we were getting nowhere, told him that I would be there at 5:30 to pick up the car and hung up. Then called the 1-800-Subaru3 number and explained the situation. Very professional person at Subaru on the other end who took my issues down and told me that he would be calling the dealer.

Should be a fun time when I get there to pick up the car at 5:30
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Hey man if your car is done, its done. Jeez. lol
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:17 PM   #266
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Brought my car into McDaniel Subaru in Columbia, SC today. June of last year delivery BRZ with almost 17K miles on it. The first one that my aforementioned dealer received. First time that it has been there for any service.

Printed out these service bulletins, since the service person that I talked to on the phone at the dealer told me that only their technicians have access to the service bulletins, and asked for them to look into the following:

02-138-12 Asked for them to check that the car had the latest ECM programming. Told them about the popping that I've been hearing.
11-130-13 Asked for them to look into the idle drop that I've been experiencing.
15-158-12 Told them that I was getting continuous loss of signal.
12-131-12 Told them that I have had considerable condensation in both tail lights, and that i had photos. They never asked for the photos.

Took their loaner and drove away. Received a call just over an hour later from the service manager. Told me bluntly, "Your car is done." I told him that seemed fast. He replied, "Nothing is wrong with you car."

I started by asking him about the taillights. He told me that there was no condensation in them, and that they weren't cracked, and that they would need photos. He also told me that he had 3 sets of lights delivered, but would have to order more. I assume because they've replaced other tail lights already?

I told him that I had photos and had offered the photos to them, and he then told me that he would only replace the seals. At that point I saw that we were getting nowhere, told him that I would be there at 5:30 to pick up the car and hung up. Then called the 1-800-Subaru3 number and explained the situation. Very professional person at Subaru on the other end who took my issues down and told me that he would be calling the dealer.

Should be a fun time when I get there to pick up the car at 5:30
I'm not sure I would have gone directly over their heads like that. Pissing off the dealer isn't a great way to start your relationship with them.

you have to remember they get a lot of people who think their yaris is a ferrari and come in for every little thing they *think* could be wrong with it. They're used to dealing with people who have their heads up their ass when it comes to talking about cars and diagnosing problems.

I would have at least spoken with the tech in person before hanging up and calling subaru about it. You stand a good chance of making the situation more difficult to deal with. It's usually a last resort if the deal isn't willing to cooperate, not a go to move.
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