Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Update:

Car dyno'd and running strong. We got the expected performance from the kit.

Water/meth injection added 20 hp and extra torque everywhere from 3,000-7,500. It also flattened out the top end even more. Good results today. Robi's tuner worked his magic. It allowed 3 degrees of timing advance among other things. This is with the smaller nozzle (5gph 313cc/min) supplied with the kit. Will test the larger nozzle (7gph 440cc/min) down the road with a progressive MAF based controller.

Time to hit the track tomorrow and sunday.

Originally Posted by swift996

Nice, when can you share the dyno?

It seems you missed the question, when can you share the Dyno? Also did you take any Dynos of just the kit, no WMI kit installed?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

It seems you missed the question, when can you share the Dyno? Also did you take any Dynos of just the kit, no WMI kit installed?

I can't share it untill innovate releases their dyno graphs. Believe me you will see graphs from Robi and I as soon as we are allowed to. We are silly excited to share this with the community! Photos, anecdotal evidence and videos for now till NDA released.

The auzzie dynos are pretty cool to look at.

[Carwhisperer]

Boom.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

The auzzie dynos are pretty cool to look at.

Good edit

[akuhei]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Good edit

It is a good edit indeed.

I will forget what I read....

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:happy0180:

[invisage]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Directly before the supercharger rotors. This was recommended by someone who has been meth injecting positive displacement superchargers for decades.

If you inject pre supercharger you:

1. Can inject 3-4 times as much as the rotors further help to atomize the fluid and the rotors actually take up a fair bit of fluid as they have large surface area compared to centri compressors on turbo and centri sc.

2. You cool off the hot rotors significantly increasing their efficiency (heat kills efficiency)

3. You soft-seal the rotors to each other allowing them to be more efficient at producing boost. You can typically gain up to 1-2 psi depending on application whereas with an intercooler you typically lose psi due to pressure drop across the intercooler.

* It allowed 3 degrees of timing advance among other things. This is with the smaller nozzle (5gph 313cc/min) supplied with the kit. Will test the larger nozzle (7gph 440cc/min) down the road with a progressive MAF based controller.

Is yours e intercooled version? I bought an AEM kit just for this but when mentioned to Sprintex the engineer said he would be concerned with the laminova (spelling) intercooler it may cause the water/meth particles to condensate and cause pooling in the manifold ect. Have you checked to see if this is happening?

[uspspro]

Any updates from Innovate regarding CARB EO?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by invisage

Is yours e intercooled version? I bought an AEM kit just for this but when mentioned to Sprintex the engineer said he would be concerned with the laminova (spelling) intercooler it may cause the water/meth particles to condensate and cause pooling in the manifold ect. Have you checked to see if this is happening?

Non intercooled

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by akuhei

It is a good edit indeed.

I will forget what I read....

...

:happy0180:

lol

Originally Posted by robispec

The latest down under dyno chart is spot on.
E85 = chemical intercooling so we are "very close" to the above intercooled chart.
he is running the 75mm pulley (= 7 lbs of boost)

[Gen]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I can't share it untill innovate releases their dyno graphs. Believe me you will see graphs from Robi and I as soon as we are allowed to. We are silly excited to share this with the community! Photos, anecdotal evidence and videos for now till NDA released.

The auzzie dynos are pretty cool to look at.

Fortunately I'm under no NDA.

What I will say is Robi puts down more WHP on the same dyno than I do with my turbo. He's got some other stuff that helps though.

[Pete]

I'm stoked to see what sw20kosh got out of it with wmi. Filthy tricksy NDA! The WMI route is more interesting to me, looks cleaner. I'm such a nerd for this.

[wparsons]

Is anyone running the intercooled version in a car that sees track use? I'm curious to see how many laps it'll take before the liquid/air IC can't keep the intake charge cool anymore.

If it can't hold up to ~30 minute track sessions then I'll probably go non intercooled, but if it can stay efficient for that long then intercooled seems to be the way to go!

[swift996]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Non intercooled

Do you plan on swapping a smaller pulley and running more boost with the meth? Very anxious to see your results.

I rode with my friend in a 335i yesterday. I know it's apples to beef but he showed me some pulls on his non-meth tune and his meth tune. Meth tune, fast as ______. He also mentioned his car would go into limp mode during HPDEs from overheating. When he runs meth he doesn't have that issue.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by swift996

Do you plan on swapping a smaller pulley and running more boost with the meth? Very anxious to see your results.

I rode with my friend in a 335i yesterday. I know it's apples to beef but he showed me some pulls on his non-meth tune and his meth tune. Meth tune, fast as ______. He also mentioned his car would go into limp mode during HPDEs from overheating. When he runs meth he doesn't have that issue.

Thank the car gods for physics!