Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Foobar

Yeah, that dyno is definitely reading low. Not a bad plot though. Would expect another 100HP easy with E85. @robispec - does that sound about right?

probably not that much but still looks great, the torque curve is really nice on that plot. Add a header and should be good to go.

[Drftfan]

Maybe it is just me but I can be patient for this to come out. My first real tuner car was a 95 240sx that we had bought brand new. It took around 4 years before any sort of quality upgrades became available. And even then we just ended up swapping the engine to the sr. Which only made 205 hp. So as it stands we aren't too bad right now.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Foobar

Would expect another 100HP easy with E85.

I'll have what you are having.

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

probably not that much but still looks great, the torque curve is really nice on that plot. Add a header and should be good to go.

Originally Posted by s2d4

I'll have what you are having.

Just basing it on the E85 gains on top of the Vortech, which has similar power to the Sprintex.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...76&postcount=1

Went from ~253 to ~365.

[Cheddar]

Its the old innovate thread once again!

:ib42014ishereandnosuperchargeryetagain!:

[robispec]

No it's not I have a PRODUCTION kit (or Unicorn if you prefer).
Two other INDUSTRY members have their PRODUCTION "test" kits too.
Carb aproval is waiting for some burocrat to wave their magic wand
The latest down under dyno chart is spot on.
E85 = chemical intercooling so we are "very close" to the above intercooled chart.
he is running the 75mm pulley (= 7 lbs of boost)

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by robispec

No it's not I have a PRODUCTION kit (or Unicorn if you prefer).
Two other INDUSTRY members have their PRODUCTION "test" kits too.
Carb aproval is waiting for some burocrat to wave their magic wand
The latest down under dyno chart is spot on.
E85 = chemical intercooling so we are "very close" to the above intercooled chart.
he is running the 75mm pulley (= 7 lbs of boost)

Are you allowed to share what pulley comes with the kit out of the box?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Foobar

Just basing it on the E85 gains on top of the Vortech, which has similar power to the Sprintex.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...76&postcount=1

Went from ~253 to ~365.

He also changed pulleys, too. 253 was @ 10psi, 365 was @ 12.5psi

[robispec]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Are you allowed to share what pulley comes with the kit out of the box?

Mine had both 75 and 80 mm CARB 91 kit I don't know prob 80 mm.
the 75 mm pulley might be part of a e85 only non-intercooled kit...

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by robispec

The latest down under dyno chart is spot on.

I seem to remember your E85 version actually has a bit more low end than this down under graph. I think the E85 is allowing more timing in the low end.

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by 2forme

He also changed pulleys, too. 253 was @ 10psi, 365 was @ 12.5psi

Wouldn't you also use more boost with the Sprintex on e85?

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[2forme]

Originally Posted by Foobar

Wouldn't you also use more boost with the Sprintex on e85?

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I would definitely, but I'm saying that you can't accurately gauge the benefit of E85 when you also change the boost level LOL. That's all

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I would definitely, but I'm saying that you can't accurately gauge the benefit of E85 when you also change the boost level LOL. That's all

Ah point taken. But to be fair, apparently the Vortech isn't seeing much of a gain even with the higher boost/smaller pulley at pumpgas. You only benefit if you change to ethanol. So there's a case where all else being equal (assuming smaller pulley, injectors, and pump), simply switching from pumpgas to ethanol, and the tune to handle it of course, netted a substantial gain.

[robispec]

We are testing the reliability and efficiency of E 85 with the standard kit and a 75 mm pulley. NONintercooled... Only other upgrade associated with this kit is the teach works 65 pump. And for those people are concerned about their oil temps and water temps the robispec huge radiator with the oil heat exchanger inside...