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[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I should also mention that I'm in an emissions state (no visual inspection) and I'm not sure the car would pass a smog test via obd2 even if there was no CEL with an EcuTek tune, and the secondary cat were present. To make obd2 emissions testing work I'd have to move the o2 sensors fore and aft of the secondary cat, right? That would probably be a pain in the ass.

That would be a huge pain especially since there are no bungs after the secondary cat.

How many years is your car exempt?

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

That would be a huge pain especially since there are no bungs after the secondary cat.

How many years is your car exempt?

Three years I believe in Georgia.

I think my best option at staying as quiet as possible with as little rasp and cabin drone would be a catted EL header and then maybe a (Invidia) catless resonated front pipe. I haven't seen any catted UEL headers yet. A catted UEL design would be difficult to make work, and that's why I don't think we'll see one. I'd love to be wrong.

[Coheed]

I'm in for an answer on that. Will the OBD2 say "ready" with this header?

[jwjknorr]

Look up defoulers, there simple to install and cheap they will take care of any cell issue from no cat, and wont be detected by the ecu.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by jwjknorr

Look up defoulers, there simple to install and cheap they will take care of any cell issue from no cat, and wont be detected by the ecu.

Thanks but a defouler would only fix the cel and I'd still be unable to register my car in GA or any clear air state without a passing a legit obd2 test. I don't think the tail pipe sniffer test is an option for a car this new.

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Thanks but a defouler would only fix the cel and I'd still be unable to register my car in GA or any clear air state without a passing a legit obd2 test. I don't think the tail pipe sniffer test is an option for a car this new.

Keep your stock header. When you need to go in simply swap them out.....

[baxter7893]

was this ever tested with the Q300, and catless front-pipe? Video's?

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Is there anyway you guys throw the header on a stock car to get a dyno graph? I'm really curious on what the header does on it's own w.o a full exhaust. Or even just a car with a full exhaust + the header would be awesome. Would give us as a community a better understanding on how this header stacks up to the Nameless Header that isn't released yet. Also if it's not asking to much even a un-flashed pull then a pull with the tune would be dope. Thanks guys!!! Look forwards to my order sometime at the end of next month!

If someone pays my fuel, i'll drive out with the P&L and do a shootout.

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Is there anyway you guys throw the header on a stock car to get a dyno graph? I'm really curious on what the header does on it's own w.o a full exhaust. Or even just a car with a full exhaust + the header would be awesome. Would give us as a community a better understanding on how this header stacks up to the Nameless Header that isn't released yet. Also if it's not asking to much even a un-flashed pull then a pull with the tune would be dope. Thanks guys!!! Look forwards to my order sometime at the end of next month!

We're looking into doing this, but can't guarantee anything. Unless I missed it Nameless has not tested theirs on a stock car, all their tests have been with tunes and full exhaust systems from what I have seen just like ours with the Borla unit was.

The very first dyno plot we posted was without a tune optimized for the header. It was a base stage 2 tune. The final number/dyno was after a couple minor tune tweaks.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I should also mention that I'm in an emissions state (no visual inspection) and I'm not sure the car would pass a smog test via obd2 even if there was no CEL with an EcuTek tune, and the secondary cat were present. To make obd2 emissions testing work I'd have to move the o2 sensors fore and aft of the secondary cat, right? That would probably be a pain in the ass.

No, to pass OBDII in out state you just have to have completed the readiness tests. If ecutek turns off the cell but does not allow the readiness checks to complete you will not pass. I would imagine they have considered that in coding the patch.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Thanks but a defouler would only fix the cel and I'd still be unable to register my car in GA or any clear air state without a passing a legit obd2 test. I don't think the tail pipe sniffer test is an option for a car this new.

Yes you would pass with an anti-fouler so long at it prevents the cel. There is NO visual inspection in GA. OBDII test are the easiest ones to cheat. No check engine light and non continuous monitors complete = pass.

Feel free to PM me if you need details. I have a copy of tech-stream as well so it's very easy to monitor the OBDII stuff to see when the drive cycle is complete. We could install and test the anti fouler in about an hour one after noon (once the header or manifold cools enough to remove the sensor), including completing the drive cycles to get it ready for emmisions test.

FWIW i plan on doing catless EL header along with my nameless catted front / over combo and nameless axle back. Keeping the stock midpipe and a highflow cat in the system keeps the volume down. If the axle back is too loud i will go with a quiet catback.

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

We have yet to get a CEL on the silver car and it has probably 100 miles on the header. Not sure how long it would take if it is going to throw one. I can only assume it will.

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

We're looking into doing this, but can't guarantee anything. Unless I missed it Nameless has not tested theirs on a stock car, all their tests have been with tunes and full exhaust systems from what I have seen just like ours with the Borla unit was.

The very first dyno plot we posted was without a tune optimized for the header. It was a base stage 2 tune. The final number/dyno was after a couple minor tune tweaks.

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Below are the details in which we did the dyno, the parts on the car, and other information.

Mods on the car that affect the results:

Current Upgrades:
Engine & Exhaust
FT-86 SpeedFactory V1 Exhaust
Borla UEL header
Perrin Overpipe
Invidia catted frontpipe
aFe Takeda Intake

Didn't you mention the intake was modded?

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Didn't you mention the intake was modded?

Correct, exactly as we listed.