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ryude · 09-06-2011, 06:28 AM

The Celica All-Trac GT-Four used Aisin transmission, so it's gotta be good right :P

Dragonitti · 09-06-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20

i'm glad some of you got my "over 9000" reference. i really think it will be between 7500 and 8000. i've said it probably 10-15 times on here by now, but i hope it has torque characteristics like the k20 in the civic si.

Eww...guess we better PRAY it's light enough, cause Honda's are weak in the torque department. Just don't see that working to well for the drift circuit.

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Originally Posted by bofa

Maybe, but the butt dyno tells me the Si in stock form is gutless. I was hellbent on getting one, got the financing done, found the one I wanted in stock online, went to test drive it and it just felt like a dog. Tried city, highway, on/off ramps and it felt like I was driving a Saturn (engine wise, the fit and finish was obviously much better). I couldn't wait to get out of that car when we got back. I hope the FR doesn't feel so gutless. It may have similar stats when its all said and done but I better be able to feel the car move.

RX8 fells the same way. A flat curve is great for the track (maintains traction most of the time), but they suck for DD and they suck for Drifting to have Honda Torque numbers. The upside is we won't have to wait for VTEC to kick in so at least it won't be a fat snail in low rpms.

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Originally Posted by Andy

Toyota, only 6sp manual gearbox I can think of currently in use is from the Lexus IS, and I would imagine that is a pretty fat heavy beast (Its used in a Diesel in the UK)

The Camry and the 2011 Scion tC have 6sp trans

Marrk · 09-06-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Eww...guess we better PRAY it's light enough, cause Honda's are weak in the torque department. Just don't see that working to well for the drift circuit.

RX8 fells the same way. A flat curve is great for the track (maintains traction most of the time), but they suck for DD and they suck for Drifting to have Honda Torque numbers. The upside is we won't have to wait for VTEC to kick in so at least it won't be a fat snail in low rpms.

2012 Civic Si = 201 hp @ 7,000 rpm + 170 ft/lbs @ 4400 rpm. Granted, the car is a pig at 2877 lbs, but those numbers by themselves don't look so awful. I'd be mucho happy if we got 170 ft/lb in the FT-86.

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-s...fications.aspx

serialk11r · 09-06-2011, 08:18 PM

That's a 2.4L engine, 170ft-lb is not going to happen. But again, it doesn't matter, just hope they gear it well and rev more :P

NESW20 · 09-06-2011, 11:07 PM

i would rather it rev like a k20 than have grunt like my 1grfe. yes, i know, totally different engines, yadda yadda... that's what i'm mostly getting at. *group hug*

i want revs, and i'm perfectly willing to give up 10 ft lbs at the low end to gain it up top (arbitrary numbers).

Marrk · 09-07-2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NESW20

i would rather it rev like a k20 than have grunt like my 1grfe. yes, i know, totally different engines, yadda yadda... that's what i'm mostly getting at. *group hug*

i want revs, and i'm perfectly willing to give up 10 ft lbs at the low end to gain it up top (arbitrary numbers).

Well, there is something to be said for revs.

Type[R]+ · 09-07-2011, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy

Toyota, only 6sp manual gearbox I can think of currently in use is from the Lexus IS...

Our corollas here in AUS come with 6 speed box.

ryude · 09-07-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NESW20

i would rather it rev like a k20 than have grunt like my 1grfe. yes, i know, totally different engines, yadda yadda... that's what i'm mostly getting at. *group hug*

i want revs, and i'm perfectly willing to give up 10 ft lbs at the low end to gain it up top (arbitrary numbers).

I really don't give a **** anymore, I just want to test drive one so I can freaking buy one already!

Andy · 09-07-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti

The Camry and the 2011 Scion tC have 6sp trans

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Originally Posted by Type[R]+

Our corollas here in AUS come with 6 speed box.

OK Guys, what do we know about the FT-86? Its FRONT engined, REAR wheel drive...

Which of those three cars are FR ?? Hmmmmmmm

So therefore, what 6 speed manual gearboxes, for a front engined, rear wheel drive car are used by the Toyota family?

Dave-ROR · 09-07-2011, 03:01 PM

You should have said the only RWD 6 speed then :P

Andy · 09-07-2011, 03:23 PM

as we were talking about gearboxes in reference to the FT-86 it should be pretty f**king obvious I wasn't talking about a Front wheel drive gearbox

Type[R]+ · 09-07-2011, 06:22 PM

Well you made it sound like they don't have 6sp boxes.

They wont use an old box, that's for sure.

no_name · 09-15-2011, 09:51 AM

I'm pretty sure that the original Mk1 concept had an Aisin 6 speed. I don't think it's been mentioned since.

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09-06-2011, 06:28 AM	#71
ryude Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Drives: Volkswagen GTI Location: Louisiana Posts: 466 Thanks: 6 Thanked 32 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	The Celica All-Trac GT-Four used Aisin transmission, so it's gotta be good right :P

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serialk11r Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe Location: United States of America Posts: 5,279 Thanks: 285 Thanked 1,075 Times in 759 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s)	That's a 2.4L engine, 170ft-lb is not going to happen. But again, it doesn't matter, just hope they gear it well and rev more :P

09-07-2011, 03:23 PM	#81
Andy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Sherwood Forest - UK Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	as we were talking about gearboxes in reference to the FT-86 it should be pretty f**king obvious I wasn't talking about a Front wheel drive gearbox

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Type[R]+ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: Lexus IS-F Location: Australia Posts: 529 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Well you made it sound like they don't have 6sp boxes. They wont use an old box, that's for sure.

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no_name Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2005 Hyundai Accent Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 306 Thanks: 27 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I'm pretty sure that the original Mk1 concept had an Aisin 6 speed. I don't think it's been mentioned since.

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