FT-86 / FR-S size dimensions compared to Genesis, Civic, Sction tC, etc

[C-Bone]

Soon enough... soon enough

[Kage]

Soon enough? What? Yesterday isn't even soon enough for me.

[C-Bone]

Lol patience it'll be here before you know it, each day its closer and closer this year is going by pretty quick imo

[NESW20]

*patience

[C-Bone]

^^ Haha nice catch, i was on my phone lol and it did its auto finish thingy. wasnt paying attention

[aliphian]

Since the size is pretty close to the S2000 can we do some more speculating on weight? The S2000 comes in at about 1300kg (2866lbs). I want to compare the supposed weight of the engines. I can't find anything definite on the web but I found one source saying that the F22C weighs 326lbs. Does anybody have an idea of what a 2.0 boxer weighs?

I also found that the Nissan S13 coupe weighs 2700lbs while the convertible weighs 2800lbs. The convertibles were only offered in automatic so I wonder how much the auto trans weighs compared to the manual...

The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that this car will come in under 1300kg.

[C-Bone]

Its not impossible either but I guess we'll see

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by aliphian

Since the size is pretty close to the S2000 can we do some more speculating on weight? The S2000 comes in at about 1300kg (2866lbs). I want to compare the supposed weight of the engines. I can't find anything definite on the web but I found one source saying that the F22C weighs 326lbs. Does anybody have an idea of what a 2.0 boxer weighs?

I also found that the Nissan S13 coupe weighs 2700lbs while the convertible weighs 2800lbs. The convertibles were only offered in automatic so I wonder how much the auto trans weighs compared to the manual...

The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that this car will come in under 1300kg.

The 7th generation Celica curb weight is 2,425 lb and it is a 4 seater.

Assuming the engine bits aren't too much heavier, toss in a rear diff and I don't see why all of that would amass to more than 400 extra pounds.

I like using the Celica for comparison because it's lightweight and shares similar dimensions.

FT-86
Length: 4,235 mm
Celica: 4331 mm

Width: 1,795 mm
Celica: 1735 mm

Height: 1,270 mm
Celica: 1306 mm

According to Subaru, the boxer engine has potential to be lighter (at least in the below comparison to a V engine)

Originally Posted by http://www.subaru.com/engineering/boxer-engine/how-different.html

...What's more, the extra vibration can require extra parts to stabilize the engine, which add weight and bulk.

[aliphian]

^ I hope it ends up like the Celica, that way it will cost between $20-25K depending on options.

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by aliphian

Since the size is pretty close to the S2000 can we do some more speculating on weight? The S2000 comes in at about 1300kg (2866lbs). I want to compare the supposed weight of the engines. I can't find anything definite on the web but I found one source saying that the F22C weighs 326lbs. Does anybody have an idea of what a 2.0 boxer weighs?

The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that this car will come in under 1300kg.

convertibles weight more due to the removal of the roof there needs to be other ways to ensure structural rigidity

seeing as the s2k came in at that weight with a power folding top I can see the FT86 hittin the target weight of 2700ish no problem

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

convertibles weight more due to the removal of the roof there needs to be other ways to ensure structural rigidity

seeing as the s2k came in at that weight with a power folding top I can see the FT86 hittin the target weight of 2700ish no problem

I was under the impression that since the S2000 was never built with a roof in mind, that did not apply. And also there is only a 100lb difference between an S13 coupe and an S13 convertible even though the vert has an auto transmission and the coupe has a 5 speed.

[fitcious]

can someone do one with a 1998-2001 Honda Prelude? I had a prelude and i want to see how similar is it to the FT86 to give myself a rough idea of the size. thanks!

[C4RBON]

Here is the FT-86 with the Miata, WRX, and the truck formerly known as Dodge Ram.




And here is one with the new Camaro.



And another with the 2005 Civic



Dimensions

FT86 II
Wheelbase: 101.2"
Length: 166.7"
Width: 70.7"
Height: 50"

Dodge Ram (Quad Cab with 6'4" bed)
Wheelbase: 140.5"
Length: 229.0"
Width: 79.4"
Height: 73.9"

Subaru Impreza WRX (sedan)
Wheelbase: 103.3"
Length: 180.3"
Width: 70.7"
Height: 58.1"

Mazda MX-5 (Miata)
Wheelbase: 91.7"
Length: 157.3"
Width: 67.7"
Height: 49.0"

Chevy Camaro
Wheelbase: 112.3"
Length: 190.4"
Width: 75.5" (without mirrors)
Height: 54.2"

Honda Civic (2005 sedan)
Wheelbase: 103.1"
Length: 175.4"
Width: 67.5"
Height: 56.7"

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Every time I look at this thing, it gets smaller. I just hope the seats are comfortable!

C4RBON

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by aliphian

I was under the impression that since the S2000 was never built with a roof in mind, that did not apply. And also there is only a 100lb difference between an S13 coupe and an S13 convertible even though the vert has an auto transmission and the coupe has a 5 speed.

True but the eletrical and motor for the top down in 15 secs is where the weight is

I do believe the s13 had a manual top you had to fold down yourself? Correct me if I am wrong tho



Woah the Camaro is huuggee compared to the ft86