[Poll] Preferred method to start stop on hills

[DantKR]

There are driveways in TN that are 45% <_<; They suuuuuuuuuuuck. But yeah, Just using visualization tools.

[sgh]

Oh, and I think for people who believe that a 30% grade hill does not seem that steep, it will feel MUCH steeper than the picture indicates. There is a hill near me that's a 22% grade and it feels VERY steep. I was shocked when I found out it was only 22% I certainly wouldn't want to ride my bike up it... The steepest grade in the Tour de France for example is usually about 33%

[rxlynn]

Originally Posted by DantKR

There are driveways in TN that are 45% <_<; They suuuuuuuuuuuck. But yeah, Just using visualization tools.

I grew up with one of those driveways in TN no doubt a contributing factor to the fact that I almost never feel the need to use the emergency brake while starting on a hill.

[pushrod]

I keep my foot on the brake, and take the clutch in just enough to see the tach dip by about 100rpm, then, it's on to the gas a bit more than normal and clutch in the rest of the way as appropriate.

Wears out the clutch quick but it sure is luxurious, and the car doesn't roll back but an inch.

[FR-STY 86]

I live in Florida, and the 86 is my first MT so I haven't had much practice.

On the rare occasion I am stopped on a 30%+ w/ someone brown-nosing me I like to use the hand break until I feel the clutch catch and a slight hunch down.

I also have a habit of letting off the break and rolling back a bit as a car is approaching me stopped on an incline so that they do not try to spoon with me at the light. Not sure if that is rude or not, but I feel it is effective.

[ToySub1946]

I voted for E brake.

Think San Francisco hills, with stop sign top of hill...before the road levels.
Sorry no FRS or BRZ in pic. And only one sporty car in pic.

These days, my observation, SF (The City): Bimmers still rule, but quite a few 86s as well...you compute geeks...well surely !

[Vincenttam]

Originally Posted by sgh

The steepest grade road in the world is apparently only 37%. Short of 4x4 off road hill climbing, I'd think it unlikely anyone had driven up a 45% grade, especially a 45% grade road (they likely wouldn't be able to pave it).

There's a 30% steep exit from the gym i go to. Not only that but there's a speed bump at the end and a red light. That's usually pretty fun...

[Koa]

awesome responses guys, keep it up!

[艾洛]

The Audi S4 I previously drove could easily get into gear without adding any gas which made hill-starts very easy (This was my first manual car). Once I got the FRS... You could say I'm afraid of rolling into someone since I'm absolutely in love with mine. I use the E-brake in traffic but once I see that there's not a single soul behind me, I always try to do it all in one swift motion, right foot on brakes, left foot in clutch, raise left foot (once at entrance of biting point) I move my right foot onto the gas. Add gas, lift clutch. Feels awesome when done correctly since I'm still a newbie.

TL;DR
Currently: E-brake
Preference: One swift motion//clutch-bite

[Hot Lava]

The handbrake for anything over 5% just like the manual suggests. The ergonomics what with the handbrake so conveniently located make it so easy to utilize this method.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by FR-STY 86

I live in Florida, and the 86 is my first MT so I haven't had much practice.
On the rare occasion I am stopped on a 30%+ w/ someone brown-nosing me I like to use the hand break until I feel the clutch catch and a slight hunch down.

I have lived for over 1 year of my life in Florida and I have a question:
WHERE in the entire state of Fl. is there a hill with a 33% grade? Driveway Maybe....

Granted, I have always lived in Cocoa Beach where the maximum elevation above sea level is about 6 feet :-)

And a question: With all of the incessant "heel toe this & heel toe that" - WHY is there no mention of leaving a hill stop using the heel toe method?

I drove my 914 for many years and had to use my heel to keep the engine from stalling.
Leaving a hill that way is simple.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by stugray

I have lived for over 1 year of my life in Florida and I have a question:
WHERE in the entire state of Fl. is there a hill with a 33% grade? Driveway Maybe....

Was gonna make a crack about the people in Kansas not knowing what a hill was but luckily researched first!

From that interweb thing all the kids are raving about:

"By any measure, Florida takes the prize for the flattest state in the nation because the highest point in the state is only 345 feet above sea level. Then Illinois, North Dakota, Louisiana, Minnesota and Delaware follow. Kansas merely ranks seventh in flatness."

[FR-STY 86]

Originally Posted by stugray

I have lived for over 1 year of my life in Florida and I have a question:
WHERE in the entire state of Fl. is there a hill with a 33% grade? Driveway Maybe.

So I went for a drive on lunch break, like always, and was going to take a pic of the "hill" that I practice on on occasion. But once there I realized it was a miniscule ~12% lol. Sure feels a lot different when driving it.

I agree FL does not have much variance in elevation. The highest point is Britton hill a whooping 345ft above sea lvl, but it is still flat ><. I asked a coworker/car enthusiast where the steepest hill in FL was and he said "space mountain Disney" lol.

But yeah, you would be surprised how many hills there are in northern Florida.

Edit:Great now Flanders is going to rag on me for reposting highest point in FL lol. jk jk. But but I started writing this periodcaly at work hours ago.

[Canadian Greg]

Using the emergency brake in this way is pointless and a very bad habit.
Do you stop your car using it too, of course not!
You'd fail every driving test using this method.