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Old 04-10-2014, 10:16 PM   #4327
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pulled it off the car today. haven't driven her NA yet, but i've no doubt i'll miss the power.



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the blower sat at an angle compared to the rest of the engine, and that's why i was having issues with belts and the tensioner. when it'd spin up (when doing a burnout, or very hard driving) the belt would pull off the pulleys, or tear, and it'd be unusuable.
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If I were only using my car for daily driving, I wouldn't get the intercooled version. I realize I'll get a lot of flack for my opinion, but I just don't think it's necessary for daily driving. The headaches and extra complexity that the intercooler adds, isn't worth it IMO.

I really think the non-intercooled version is perfectly fine for daily driving, where you aren't 100% throttle for 30min at a time (like you are on the track). I'd save the money and headache.

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I'll wait to reserve judgement on Bills tune but I definitely felt a power difference between the non-intercooled/intercooled setup on the previous tune.

Being in the heat you can just feel the power going away. it sucked!
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Has anyone gotten the updated 8.54 from Bill yet? After being on 93 my car is now starting to show some of the hesitation (also seeing a drop in AM to go along with it) so I'm hoping the 8.54 revision will remedy that. Seems that once the drop happens on the AM, you have to drive the car pretty hard (3500 RPM+) with a higher engine load to get it to creep back up. I have been logging and I'll watch it go from .93 down to as low as .3, before slowly crawling back up to around .93 - just to have it have another event during normal stop and go traffic driving and fall all over.

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Has anyone gotten the updated 8.54 from Bill yet? After being on 93 my car is now starting to show some of the hesitation (also seeing a drop in AM to go along with it) so I'm hoping the 8.54 revision will remedy that. Seems that once the drop happens on the AM, you have to drive the car pretty hard (3500 RPM+) with a higher engine load to get it to creep back up. I have been logging and I'll watch it go from .93 down to as low as .3, before slowly crawling back up to around .93 - just to have it have another event during normal stop and go traffic driving and fall all over.

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Has anyone gotten the updated 8.54 from Bill yet? After being on 93 my car is now starting to show some of the hesitation (also seeing a drop in AM to go along with it) so I'm hoping the 8.54 revision will remedy that. Seems that once the drop happens on the AM, you have to drive the car pretty hard (3500 RPM+) with a higher engine load to get it to creep back up. I have been logging and I'll watch it go from .93 down to as low as .3, before slowly crawling back up to around .93 - just to have it have another event during normal stop and go traffic driving and fall all over.

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AM is pretty bad on my 8.51 tune also. I'm trying to be as patient as possible receiving an updated tune. I opened a ticket 1 week ago, and haven't received any updates yet. Hopefully 8.54 addresses these AM fluctuations.

I've been tempted to go back to my previous tune, which wasn't as smooth in the lower RPMs (and exhibited worse gas mileage), but my AM was rock solid at 1.

I'm really hoping to receive the tune this weekend
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How are you guys monitoring IAM? Anything other than a computer plugged in all the time? I really want to find another way to monitor it. Any ideas?
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How are you guys monitoring IAM? Anything other than a computer plugged in all the time? I really want to find another way to monitor it. Any ideas?
Just have a Surface tablet plugged into the car during my drive to/from work every day, and when I'm out driving around. It gets irritating but I do it every time I switch a tune until I feel comfortable with the setup of the car. Been changing stuff about once every 2 months though.... so the tablet pretty much stays in the car. I too would like a better way to monitor it - wish that p3 would have added it to their gauge - having some of the subaru/toyota specific codes in that gauge would make 400 dollars sound like a better investment.
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This is the exact reason why I hate Ecutek because monitoring is a PITA.

Is anyone having these IAM issues or hesitation issues on 8.52, or just 51? I just loaded in 52 last night, first drive was today. I'm on a flex fuel map though so things could be different.
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This is the exact reason why I hate Ecutek because monitoring is a PITA.

Is anyone having these IAM issues or hesitation issues on 8.52, or just 51? I just loaded in 52 last night, first drive was today. I'm on a flex fuel map though so things could be different.
I have the 8.52 Flex Fuel map as well (93 base, 75mm pulley non-innercooled) - it's doing it for me when running 93. E70 it was doing it less but I still noticed some dip in AM.
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I have the 8.52 Flex Fuel map as well (93 base, 75mm pulley non-innercooled) - it's doing it for me when running 93. E70 it was doing it less but I still noticed some dip in AM.
Well i'm 70mm and intercooled so its probably different. But either way I will make sure to log and check it out. I didn't bring my laptop with me today but I always try to give it a few days to let everything reset.
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the blower sat at an angle compared to the rest of the engine, and that's why i was having issues with belts and the tensioner. when it'd spin up (when doing a burnout, or very hard driving) the belt would pull off the pulleys, or tear, and it'd be unusuable.
do you know what pulley it would pull off first? was it the supercharger pulley?
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the blower sat at an angle compared to the rest of the engine, and that's why i was having issues with belts and the tensioner. when it'd spin up (when doing a burnout, or very hard driving) the belt would pull off the pulleys, or tear, and it'd be unusuable.
You completely done with it even if you get a replacement, or you putting it back on once things are squared away?
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Well i'm 70mm and intercooled so its probably different. But either way I will make sure to log and check it out. I didn't bring my laptop with me today but I always try to give it a few days to let everything reset.
I do too - for some reason I always seem to watch the tune be completely happy on day one, staying at 1. Only the next day would it have one little freak out, have the AM fall, then build back up and then it would stay at 1. (This was the behavior of my car on Bill's N/A Stage 2 Flex Fuel tune) - with the supercharger though it's constantly bouncing around from around .3 to .9 and back. Always seems to fall when going from part throttle low RPM to mid/full throttle giving a high load - betting the tune is just slightly too aggressive with timing in that one area of the map - upper RPM on full load/light load I haven't seen a drop, and haven't seen a drop on low rpm/low load either. <shrugs> Hopefully Bill gets all moved in soon and back with us!
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