Do you think this will hurt resale value even more? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

yjbeach · 10-29-2013, 09:54 AM

Do you think the report will hurt resale value even more? http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/28/c...ability-japan/

Just food for thought because it will come up when people search for the vehicle or those that rely on this magazine for input.

TwinturboCamry · 10-29-2013, 10:20 AM

Reports are one thing. People's perceptions of the brands are often more powerful and tend to sway people more when purchasing. Hyundai has improved leaps and bounds and makes one hell of a car for the money. Go ask the average person what they think of Hyundai and they will still tell you it's a cheap Korean car. Hyundai is backing dump trucks of money into the office of their marketing department to try to convince people otherwise. IT"S HARD.

Brands like Toyota and Honda know they can charge a small premium for their brand and association with reliability. I'm not a Toyota fanboi of anything, but there is a reason they sell a metric ton of cars and have insane resell values. If you bought your car for re-sell value, you bought the car for the wrong reason because most cars are depreciating assets.

Just drive it and enjoy.

Whitigir · 10-29-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinturboCamry

Reports are one thing. People's perceptions of the brands are often more powerful and tend to sway people more when purchasing. Hyundai has improved leaps and bounds and makes one hell of a car for the money. Go ask the average person what they think of Hyundai and they will still tell you it's a cheap Korean car. Hyundai is backing dump trucks of money into the office of their marketing department to try to convince people otherwise. IT"S HARD.

Brands like Toyota and Honda know they can charge a small premium for their brand and association with reliability. I'm not a Toyota fanboi of anything, but there is a reason they sell a metric ton of cars and have insane resell values. If you bought your car for re-sell value, you bought the car for the wrong reason because most cars are depreciating assets.

Just drive it and enjoy.

Lol. Hyundai is really a cheap car from material to pricing. Good design though. Reliability is still in questions.

If you bought a 95 supra, it is still of value as of now.

I agree with cars being depreciating assets, but not all

TwinturboCamry · 10-29-2013, 10:38 AM

Niche sports car that didn't sell that well helps. The Supra was almost $78k adjusted for inflation. I think they same will happen to the S2000, not the FRS. It's too affordable.

Stevo22 · 10-29-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinturboCamry

Reports are one thing. People's perceptions of the brands are often more powerful and tend to sway people more when purchasing. Hyundai has improved leaps and bounds and makes one hell of a car for the money. Go ask the average person what they think of Hyundai and they will still tell you it's a cheap Korean car. Hyundai is backing dump trucks of money into the office of their marketing department to try to convince people otherwise. IT"S HARD.

Brands like Toyota and Honda know they can charge a small premium for their brand and association with reliability. I'm not a Toyota fanboi of anything, but there is a reason they sell a metric ton of cars and have insane resell values. If you bought your car for re-sell value, you bought the car for the wrong reason because most cars are depreciating assets.

Just drive it and enjoy.

To add to this statement. They are going through a rebranding phase in which they are selling a better product for a similar price to the competition. They will not be able to do this forever and will either have to evidentially raise the price of the product or lower the quality. That being said it is a good time to buy a Hyundai right now.

The ten least depreciated cars of the last ten years

TwinturboCamry · 10-29-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo22

To add to this statement. They are going through a rebranding phase in which they are selling a better product for a similar price to the competition. They will not be able to do this forever and will either have to evidentially raise the price of the product or lower the quality. That being said it is a good time to buy a Hyundai right now.

I agree. Hyundai is a very very interesting brand to study. Look at all those that came in and tried to do what they have done and failed so badly. Look at all the failed brands that are out there are you'll start to see how good of a job they've been doing. Who remembered the Hyundai brand 10 years ago? What happened to Mitsubishi and Saab?

NWFRS · 10-29-2013, 10:57 AM

$25k sports cars aren't the best investment material. If you're looking for resale value, buy a Fiat Dino Spider or Lancia Delta Integrale. I agree with almost all the previous comments. (I'm still a little biased against Korean cars if I'm honest. My wife used to own an '09 Santa Fe, and her coworker just bought a 2013 Kia SUV that needs a new motor)

atledreier · 10-29-2013, 11:30 AM

Look at how our cars are driven compared to a granny's Corolla... It's a miracle the number of failures are as low as they are!

Calavera · 10-29-2013, 11:34 AM

The only thing that report hurt was my crickets' feelings!!

I agree, enjoy the car! 3-4 years down the line you will find a youngster that will be willing to part with 10k for your twin.

OICU812 · 10-29-2013, 12:46 PM

Hyundai... All this chatter on them while nothing they make excites me the least. IMO they're fugly..

JDMenrique · 10-29-2013, 01:24 PM

this car has a cult following and millions arent roaming the roads. Its not going to reach supra or skyline territory but i think 10-15 years from now a clean, well taken car of FR-S/BRZ will sell fairly well.

Mikem53 · 10-29-2013, 01:29 PM

No... It's not going to hurt resale value.. This is a niche kind of car..
If someone wants reliable transportation they will buy a Camry or a Corolla or something similar. Those looking for fun and enjoyment and a purists type approach are going to get this kind of car and will ignore all the BS from Consumer Reports and other mainstream reviewers. This car will be one of the best sports cars around and the best value for a long time to come.

bcj · 10-29-2013, 01:40 PM

Who goes to Consumer Reports for sport car recommendations?

thill · 10-29-2013, 02:15 PM

I don't think it will hurt resale value, but I do think Toyota and Subaru need to get off their ass and fix some of the issues like crickets that have been around for over 18 months now. Until they do, people will continue to ding the car.

I will say that my car has only had cricket issues to date. Otherwise it has been rock solid.

10-29-2013, 09:54 AM	#1
yjbeach Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Jeep Wrangler Location: NOVA Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you think this will hurt resale value even more? Do you think the report will hurt resale value even more? http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/28/c...ability-japan/ Just food for thought because it will come up when people search for the vehicle or those that rely on this magazine for input.

10-29-2013, 11:34 AM	#9
Calavera Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Scion FR-S Whiteout Location: Texas Posts: 415 Thanks: 92 Thanked 149 Times in 94 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The only thing that report hurt was my crickets' feelings!! I agree, enjoy the car! 3-4 years down the line you will find a youngster that will be willing to part with 10k for your twin. __________________ If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious shit.

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10-29-2013, 10:20 AM	#2
TwinturboCamry Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4 wheels Location: Canada Posts: 122 Thanks: 7 Thanked 162 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Reports are one thing. People's perceptions of the brands are often more powerful and tend to sway people more when purchasing. Hyundai has improved leaps and bounds and makes one hell of a car for the money. Go ask the average person what they think of Hyundai and they will still tell you it's a cheap Korean car. Hyundai is backing dump trucks of money into the office of their marketing department to try to convince people otherwise. IT"S HARD. Brands like Toyota and Honda know they can charge a small premium for their brand and association with reliability. I'm not a Toyota fanboi of anything, but there is a reason they sell a metric ton of cars and have insane resell values. If you bought your car for re-sell value, you bought the car for the wrong reason because most cars are depreciating assets. Just drive it and enjoy.

10-29-2013, 10:38 AM	#4
TwinturboCamry Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4 wheels Location: Canada Posts: 122 Thanks: 7 Thanked 162 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Niche sports car that didn't sell that well helps. The Supra was almost $78k adjusted for inflation. I think they same will happen to the S2000, not the FRS. It's too affordable.

10-29-2013, 10:57 AM	#7
NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,298 Thanks: 3,946 Thanked 1,503 Times in 635 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	$25k sports cars aren't the best investment material. If you're looking for resale value, buy a Fiat Dino Spider or Lancia Delta Integrale. I agree with almost all the previous comments. (I'm still a little biased against Korean cars if I'm honest. My wife used to own an '09 Santa Fe, and her coworker just bought a 2013 Kia SUV that needs a new motor)

10-29-2013, 01:29 PM	#12
Mikem53 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: FR-S 6MT Location: Somewhere in Space Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 500 Thanked 882 Times in 433 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No... It's not going to hurt resale value.. This is a niche kind of car.. If someone wants reliable transportation they will buy a Camry or a Corolla or something similar. Those looking for fun and enjoyment and a purists type approach are going to get this kind of car and will ignore all the BS from Consumer Reports and other mainstream reviewers. This car will be one of the best sports cars around and the best value for a long time to come.

10-29-2013, 02:15 PM	#14
thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think it will hurt resale value, but I do think Toyota and Subaru need to get off their ass and fix some of the issues like crickets that have been around for over 18 months now. Until they do, people will continue to ding the car. I will say that my car has only had cricket issues to date. Otherwise it has been rock solid.

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