Stainless Steel Brake Lines on a Daily Driver?

[Skippman]

I'm about to take my brake calipers off to paint them with a G2 kit. While I have them off I was considering swapping out to stainless steel lines, probably the StopTech lines. Do you think it's worth it on a non-tracked car or should I save the coin?

[cnk]

Go for it since you'll have to remove the line anyways. You'll get better brake pedal feel even on the street.

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[andrewFT86]

Better to change to ss lines. When I had my stock lines replaced with Goodridge lines the improvement was significant. I noticed that the ss lines have a smaller internal diameter. I guess this helps increase pressure and this is complemented by the ss reinforcement because the braided stainless steel prevents expansion.

[Superhatch]

I've heard that SS lines do almost nothing on a car that already has such a good brake feel. I've read posts on here saying they are good, and some saying that their brake feel got worse when they put them on.

Rubber lines aren't just rubber, they have tensile material laid below the rubber to prevent expansion. On a 20 year old car, sure they will make a difference, but I would wager that going to a higher temp fluid, buying a MC brace, or buying better brake pads are all better investments than SS lines for a car built in the last year.

[Skippman]

Honestly, I haven't noticed anything wrong with the braking system. I figured since I was already taking the calipers out it would save time to just swap out. But for me, this probably would end up being only a cosmetic change.

[BRZPDX]

I am debating this as well. With Oregon summer weather (85 - 95F), will a SS line be necessary for occasional track events? Or just swapping the high temp brake fluids enough for it to not boil/melt the brake lines?

Also, if I get high performance pads, will the stock brake line hold up fine?

[CSG Mike]

SS lines aren't required. Rather, they're there to prevent long term degredation that the stock lines will eventually suffer.

We only stock Speigler lines for the FR-S/BRZ; they come with a lifetime manufacturer's warranty.

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[Laika]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

SS lines aren't required. Rather, they're there to prevent long term degredation that the stock lines will eventually suffer.

From personal experience, what is the longevity like on SS brake lines? I'm all about modifications that will reduce maintenance costs/time (more importantly time).

Spiegler is well established in making brake lines for our two wheeled brethren. Apparently they're pretty strong too....

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Laika

From personal experience, what is the longevity like on SS brake lines? I'm all about modifications that will reduce maintenance costs/time (more importantly time).

Spiegler is well established in making brake lines for our two wheeled brethren. Apparently they're pretty strong too....

Not too many people ride here... I think

I personally change my brake lines every 100 on-track sessions or so on my S2000, but that car is underbraked, and brake line failures (at the crimp) from extreme heat cycling has been observed on the platform.

We've been keeping an eye on our lines on the CSG BRZ, and they aren't seeing anywhere near the heat my S2000 does, so I'm going to say (for now) that they shouldn't ever need to be changed on a street car unless there is visible damage. Tracked cars should have the lines inspected regularly, but I don't forsee them needing regular replacement.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Skippman

Honestly, I haven't noticed anything wrong with the braking system. I figured since I was already taking the calipers out it would save time to just swap out. But for me, this probably would end up being only a cosmetic change.

Eh? The only person seeing them would be you.

Listen, just do a better tire setting and pads, you'll be fine for a street set up.

[Draco-REX]

I'm installing SS lines on my car..

I recently did a track day at Mid-Ohio with Carbotech XP10 pads. One thing the XP10s do, according to Carbotech, is level off a bit when they get up to temp. This is to allow for greater modulation. When I hit that temperature point, I could really feel the "slack" in the braking system. So I want to eliminate as much of that as possible.

I have installed a MC brace, but I'm not sure I can say it was a noticeable improvement. So SS lines are waiting to go on, and at the same time I'm going to upgrade to ATE Blue. We'll see how the pedal feel is on my next track day.

[bkblitzed]

ss lines are cheap like 100$ for both front and rear so might as well. But for a brand new car, i dont feel like you would need it.

[supramkivtt2jz]

chase bays are cheap - $80 and have the "L" fittings unlike other lines.

[m.wood0213]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

I am debating this as well. With Oregon summer weather (85 - 95F), will a SS line be necessary for occasional track events? Or just swapping the high temp brake fluids enough for it to not boil/melt the brake lines?

Also, if I get high performance pads, will the stock brake line hold up fine?

F*** your 95F summer temps lol just giving you a hard time because im in Texas. Ive looked at SS lines but honestly probably the last thing id do for a DD unless you are looking for that little bit extra feel. bleeding the brakes and upgrading the fluid might give you all the extra feel you want or a MC brace.