Engine from Manuel to Auto Transmission

[Kevyn]

Soo I recently...oh wait hi! My name is Kevyn and I’m new here so I just finish buying a new engine from a car that was Manuel because my car (A Automatic) started having a knocking noise so instead of rebuild found a new engine with 45k for $1800 now I swap everything over and put the ecu from my old engine on to the new and all my grounds wires are connect and had to switch a lot of components over. With that being said the car now sits on 4 jacks because it cranks really strong but won’t turn over. Everyone telling me I might have to flash my ECU (wink wink) because maybe the engine and ecu are not talking sooo just need help or some advise. Btw I’m a movie when it comes to names of parts more like show me a picture or point it out and tell me to fix it and I’ll know how to do it lol.

[Kevyn]

Btw sorry for the bad vocab lol

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Kevyn

Soo I recently...oh wait hi! My name is Kevyn and I’m new here so I just finish buying a new engine from a car that was Manuel because my car (A Automatic) started having a knocking noise so instead of rebuild found a new engine with 45k for $1800 now I swap everything over and put the ecu from my old engine on to the new and all my grounds wires are connect and had to switch a lot of components over. With that being said the car now sits on 4 jacks because it cranks really strong but won’t turn over. Everyone telling me I might have to flash my ECU (wink wink) because maybe the engine and ecu are not talking sooo just need help or some advise. Btw I’m a movie when it comes to names of parts more like show me a picture or point it out and tell me to fix it and I’ll know how to do it lol.

Hello Kevyn and welcome to ...... The Forum ......

That is some project you got yourself into ......

About the engine ...... you say it "cranks really strong, but won't turn over". Do you mean it will turn over but will not fire ... ??

So, where to start. The engine needs compression, air, fuel and spark to run .... right..?? And, oh yes, timing.

Let's assume it has compression. Is it getting fuel and air .. ??

Now, what about spark and timing ...... which is controlled by the ECU.

That's where I run over my pay grade......

Maybe others will be along to help you out.




humfrz

[Kevyn]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Hello Kevyn and welcome to ...... The Forum ......

That is some project you got yourself into ......

About the engine ...... you say it "cranks really strong, but won't turn over". Do you mean it will turn over but will not fire ... ??

So, where to start. The engine needs compression, air, fuel and spark to run .... right..?? And, oh yes, timing.

Let's assume it has compression. Is it getting fuel and air .. ??

Now, what about spark and timing ...... which is controlled by the ECU.

That's where I run over my pay grade......

Maybe others will be along to help you out.




humfrz

Thank you! But before i got the engine I asked the guy to turn it on to make sure it was good Boom he turn it on and it sounded in great condidtion and had no problems he even kept all repairs up to date. Now I chem spark plugs it came with and it got flooded with gas from me cranking it so I put brand new ones now I did have to to put the ratchet on the crank pilot to turn the fly wheel to install the bolts on to the transmission ball thing to the fly wheel lol soo yeah maybe I fucked up the timing on it so maybe I might have to fix it and maybe that’s harder then what it sounds like lol not sure.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Kevyn

Thank you! But before i got the engine I asked the guy to turn it on to make sure it was good Boom he turn it on and it sounded in great condidtion and had no problems he even kept all repairs up to date. Now I chem spark plugs it came with and it got flooded with gas from me cranking it so I put brand new ones now I did have to to put the ratchet on the crank pilot to turn the fly wheel to install the bolts on to the transmission ball thing to the fly wheel lol soo yeah maybe I fucked up the timing on it so maybe I might have to fix it and maybe that’s harder then what it sounds like lol not sure.

Ya know, Kevyn, I surely appreciate your wanting to make that engine swap on your own.

Yep, that's a good way to learn for sure ......

However, I have a "feeling", that you have reached the point where you need some professional advice in order to get it running.

Might I suggest you have your car taken into a automotive shop and have them get it running for you.




humfrz

[BirdTRD]

Read this. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2712903

[bkharmony]

[ermax]

Add another person to the list of 2013s with spun rod bearings.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Kevyn

Thank you! But before i got the engine I asked the guy to turn it on to make sure it was good Boom he turn it on and it sounded in great condidtion and had no problems he even kept all repairs up to date. Now I chem spark plugs it came with and it got flooded with gas from me cranking it so I put brand new ones now I did have to to put the ratchet on the crank pilot to turn the fly wheel to install the bolts on to the transmission ball thing to the fly wheel lol soo yeah maybe I fucked up the timing on it so maybe I might have to fix it and maybe that’s harder then what it sounds like lol not sure.

Are you saying you turned the crank while the timing chain was off? You will not impact the timing if the chains were still on. I'm assuming you did a direct swap and didn't open up this new engine.

Is the new engine also a 2013? I wouldn't think it would be that involved swapping a manual engine into an auto. There aren't that many parts that would need to be transferred to the new engine.

If I had to guess you have a connector that you forgot. Or maybe one of the ground straps at the bottom of the engine. Do you have any CELs? If so, what are they?

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

I don't get it. I thought most race cars now days were paddle shift or sequential without using clutch.

[steve99]

It should work fine

You dont need to reflash ecu

Its likely one of the sensors not conmected check maf, map sensors and crank angle sensor, you may have installed something incorrectly this happens to a lot pf guys changing clutch and flywheel then incorrectly install crank sensor wheel

Theor are some differences vetween crank sensors on older cars like 2013 and newer 2017 engines not sure if your engine was that new, use sensors off your original motpr

[Kevyn]

Originally Posted by steve99

It should work fine

You dont need to reflash ecu

Its likely one of the sensors not conmected check maf, map sensors and crank angle sensor, you may have installed something incorrectly this happens to a lot pf guys changing clutch and flywheel then incorrectly install crank sensor wheel

Theor are some differences vetween crank sensors on older cars like 2013 and newer 2017 engines not sure if your engine was that new, use sensors off your original motpr

Ahhh I see and does the flywheel have to be mounted a certain position for it to turn on the right way

[Kevyn]

Originally Posted by bkharmony

I’m actually Russian born in a Spanish country with an attitude of a African tribe