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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze
Catless would be non-roadworthy in Aus.
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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses
That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!
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We'll always offer catalyst options in all of our designs. Especially if there is a regulatory reason to compel us to run them for a specific market. Keep us informed on what other regs you have, etc when we discuss design ideas. Orbital, what state are you in?
Snooze, I know we are working on an updated downpipe for the STi specifically for the Aussie market, featuring twin cats and a long tube high mount wastegate recirculation option. We want every excuse possible to come down there. Met with the GM at Pedders Suspension yesterday and hit it off great. Bill is an awesome guy and he was doing his best to give us reasons to come visit their operations down there. We'll probably be working with them directly in order to augment our line of control arms, sway bars and chassis bracing. Also keep us informed as to who your go-to vendors are for the BRZ so that we can chat them up about stocking our parts.
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR
Ugh.. fosters.. that's Austrialian for shit.
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Quoting our friend Hayden from the Summit Rally Team 'We don't even drink that shit!' We set him up with an AR-15 and a fine 24.5 fluid oz target.
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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses
That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!
As much as I'm averse to buying parts that don't make power, I would buy a resonated midpipe if it functioned well in noise reduction and was lighter than the OEM component.
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I'm glad to know that is something that people may be interested in. I'll toss one of our 'heavy lifting special' 4" resonators into the prototype we have here today and get some more videos of it on the car. That is a simple place for us to reduce sound and get people the option of a full 304 stainless system. I agree that the header cat should be avoided based on the behavior of the car with the catless header.
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Originally Posted by dwx
Titanium would be great, I had a Magnaflow Ti catback on my WRX. It was single exit, but with a much longer midpipe, and the whole thing weighed 11lbs.
Of course there is a premium but some of us might be willing to pay it.
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Ha. I have been to the company who made the mufflers and tips for those Magnaflow exhausts. I'm not a huge fan of overseas manufacturing, but I came from a company who had some excellent connections overseas. Believe it or not, most of that Ti Magnaflow stuff was made in Korea. And I'll tell ya what, those guys were amazing at what they did. Some of the coolest production metalworking I have ever seen, but when you went from the muffler/tip/y manufacturer over to the place that build actual exhausts it wasn't so much. Like I mentioned earlier we have got a quote out for 2.5" annealed Ti tubing and we will probably be trying to get some of these designs to market one way or another. In other exotic materials news, we are getting quotes on making all of these headers in 321 stainless. The main difference between 321 and 304 is that the 321 has much better strength of materials properties when at exhaust gas temperatures. May even allow us to run thinner wall thickness for lighter weight. May consider doing the same on the downpipe/overpipe combo as an optional selection. In that application it'd purely be for a weight consideration.
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Originally Posted by Nazarite
I, for one, would really appreciate it if you Aussies would quit thefting our threads please. Don't make me link a Fosters ad in here.
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Haaaa! Let em discuss that stuff, I'd love to hear what kind of regulatory environment our parts are going to be susceptible to so that we can provide the best parts possible with the least hassle for our down under customers. Although that does make me want to photoshop a Fosters ad with some car parts in it: I'm thinking....DOWNPIPE (photo of a downpipe with 4 catalytic converters in it, heat shields, regulatory warnings laser engraved in it), BEER (photo of fosters can)
"Fosters, Australian for Piss." :-D Don't worry guys, we hate Budweiser and Coors also! Do you guys get any of our good beer from the Pacific Northwest down there? Rogue, Full Sail, Deschutes, Widmer, Red Hook? Any regulations against us throwing a good beer in every package we ship down there?
We might be brewing enthusiasts also...this 10 gallon Brutus brewing system was my first Stainless TIG welding project from a few years ago (note: I am not one of the welders here, but I can TIG Stainless well enough):
Jason