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allowe 10-19-2016 11:52 PM

Cheap pulley kit from ebay
 
I found a kit on eBay from "fab racing" that's 150 for all pulleys (Canadian) and it apparently weights 1.54 lbs all together.. has anyone used one of these eBay kits before ? The price is so tempting and seem pretty light


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allowe 10-20-2016 09:20 AM

Does anyone have any experience with go fast bits pulley kit? I was able to find a cheap kit locally


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Tcoat 10-20-2016 09:33 AM

Save your cash for something that makes a difference but if you really want it then don't go he cheapest thing that you can find on Ebay. There are reasons they are so cheap and since pulleys are actually a more critical component then some seem to think I would be very leery.


And here we go with debate 1,876 on the topic.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13781
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12450
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=20605&page=3
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61709
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12583
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24081
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50879

deejaylew 10-20-2016 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779199)
Save your cash for something that makes a difference but if you really want it then don't go he cheapest thing that you can find on Ebay. There are reasons they are so cheap and since pulleys are actually a more critical component then some seem to think I would be very leery.


And here we go with debate 1,876 on the topic.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13781
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12450
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=20605&page=3
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61709
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12583
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24081
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50879

:scared0016: They are coming... They are coming quick. This post will not go unpunished lol

Tcoat 10-20-2016 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deejaylew (Post 2779201)
:scared0016: They are coming... They are coming quick. This post will not go unpunished lol

They have no power over me!


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allowe 10-20-2016 09:51 AM

Cheap pulley kit from ebay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779199)
Save your cash for something that makes a difference but if you really want it then don't go he cheapest thing that you can find on Ebay. There are reasons they are so cheap and since pulleys are actually a more critical component then some seem to think I would be very leery.


And here we go with debate 1,876 on the topic.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13781
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12450
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=20605&page=3
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61709
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12583
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24081
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50879



Have you ever had them before or had any experience with them? When I put one on my sentra, the different was there not by horsepower but by feeling the revs lighter
Also there is yet to be a yes or no on whether theyre effective or not :/


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Tcoat 10-20-2016 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allowe (Post 2779215)
Have you ever had them before or had any experience with them? When I put one on my sentra, the different was there not by horsepower but by feeling the revs lighter
Also there is yet to be a yes or no on whether theyre effective or not :/


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Yes. I bought into the whole theory with my Talon TSI. They did NOTHING. The placebo effect and the justification bias however is very strong.


As I very clearly said though: If YOU want them then don't just grab the cheapest thing you can find. Spend the money and do it right. Half assing things with questionable Ebay parts is not doing things right. There were several reviews of the parts in the links I gave you go ahead and make up your own mind but remember opinions will differ.

allowe 10-20-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779219)
Yes. I bought into the whole theory with my Talon TSI. They did NOTHING. The placebo effect and the justification bias however is very strong.


As I very clearly said though: If YOU want them then don't just grab the cheapest thing you can find. Spend the money and do it right. Half assing things with questionable Ebay parts is not doing things right. There were several reviews of the parts in the links I gave you go ahead and make up your own mind but remember opinions will differ.



Oh I know I just wanted yours and others opinion about the cheap eBay ones which now I understand I should steer away from them.

But I have yet to seriously find a thread that says NO they do not work or YES they do!


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GSpeed 10-20-2016 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allowe (Post 2779227)
But I have yet to seriously find a thread that says NO they do not work or YES they do!

Because people have different standards of "working" or not.

For us, it's "Do they make the car faster?" in which case the answer is no.

Some people want to know if they slow down the alternator or other accessories at high RPM ("underdrive"), but don't really investigate whether or not that's necessary. Do they make the accessories drive slower? Sometimes, yes. But again, that's not really accomplishing anything other than justification bias on these motors as already mentioned. Now, if you go buy a motor from Element Tuning or someone that's meant to spin to 9,000 RPM all day long, then maybe there's some merit there.

Some people want them to make the engine bay look fancy or modified. Do they do that? Sure. They're just round pieces of metal.

Tcoat 10-20-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allowe (Post 2779227)
Oh I know I just wanted yours and others opinion about the cheap eBay ones which now I understand I should steer away from them.

But I have yet to seriously find a thread that says NO they do not work or YES they do!


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You will never find such a thread. You just have to pick a side in the debate and stick with it until somebody says something that changes your mind. Like so many things on the internet there is so much info and for every article for something there is one against. There is indeed definitive testing that states there is zero advantage to them which is immediately countered by testing that says they are wonderful. It isn't odd though that most of the info saying no change comes from independent sources whereas the info saying they are great comes from the people that make and sell them.


From MY own personal experience, in a totally different car, with totally different technology, from both my butt and a real dyno I am very firmly in the they are a waste of time camp. Now, I am going to add a qualifier to that statement. IF you are going for a massive weight reduction (and I mean to the point the car is no longer street drivable) then there is certainly a cumulative advantage to going to light pulleys. As a change all on their own any effect they may have is so small that there is no real impact even though people may THINK they feel a difference.


That is my final contribution to the debate and I will let everybody else rehash it (yet again) from here.

Lantana frs 10-20-2016 10:33 AM

Fuck those things. Your main bearings will thank u.

D_Thissen 10-20-2016 10:36 AM

No... Just...No

humfrz 10-21-2016 12:48 AM

^ .......what he said.


humfrz

nikitopo 10-21-2016 03:02 AM

There is a debate for many years. Some people defend them, some don't and some just try it. Personally, I tried it and my car is much better than ever. Keep in mind that this is a small NA engine and it helps saving rotational weight. However, keep also in mind that my car is less than 2620lbs, I installed the most expensive pulley kit and it also underdrives the alternator (not good if you have A/C, heated seats or in general use the battery a lot). Additionally, you'll hear more noises from the engine. For me it is fine, because it is a sports/race car and not a daily driver. I would never install this on my daily car. If you want to buy it, I agree with the others. Don't buy these things from ebay for cheap.


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