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Desi Gt86 02-04-2015 03:19 PM

Drop in air filter opinions pls!!!
 
Hi all,

Considering an aftermarket air filter. My car is stock standard but after 10 000kms looking for a bit more without voiding warranty.

Any suggestions?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Desi

STV3 02-04-2015 03:23 PM

You are welcome

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13245

Now learn how to use Google!

bigred18 02-04-2015 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desi Gt86 (Post 2118278)
Hi all,

Considering an aftermarket air filter. My car is stock standard but after 10 000kms looking for a bit more without voiding warranty.

Any suggestions?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Desi



K&N drop in filter. I'm looking for one myself for an easy 5ish hp. It's an easy swap and a good filter to have if you have a stock intake.

swarb 02-04-2015 03:24 PM

Oiled or non-oiled.
pick a color.
impossible to void warranty.
I went with afe dry.
Search.

BRY100 02-04-2015 03:39 PM

I put in a K&N filter last Sunday. Lets be honest, you aren't really going to notice massive gains with 5HP more, however, my car does pull ever so slightly stronger now.


The K&N filter is much thinner than the cotton wool looking stock filter, so the engine is definitely breathing easier.

FT_86_SM_GP 02-04-2015 04:57 PM

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K&N would be best value for money in South Africa,

You can get this at ATS in Randburg, Gauteng. (Not sure about CPT and DBN options) (When purchased mine I paid around R800 (Cannot remember exactly)
http://www.ats-motorsport.co.za/

There are a few Vendors in the US that keep them, but specific vendor shipping costs vary, also consider the import duties etc....Im sure shipping it will cost less than ATS, But if you dont want to wait and deal with the hassle of shipping etc ATS is the way to go...

If anyone else has knowledge of Drop In Filters in SA, please share,

If you going the 'import way':

Here is a screenshot of my personal spreadsheet filtered for K&N DIF and the Blitz DIF. (These have estimated prices)

(Theres no 'price check' apps for mods :bonk: have to do it manually)

You should check on www.ebay.com and www.amazon.com as well

Hope it helps,
:thumbsup:

Desi Gt86 02-04-2015 11:52 PM

Thanks BRY100 and FT 86 SM GP

Was leaning towards the k&n. Understand it's not going to be massive gains but would like to see a slight improvement.

Appreciate the feedback.

Dammod 02-05-2015 01:10 AM

Hey @Desi Gt86,

Welcome to the forums ;)

We have noticed a very slight bump in airflow when using an AFE and K&N drop-in filter.

Remember that the results you see for tests done internationally will probably show a higher hp/kw gained then what we should experience here on our fuel assuming the tests were done on the required octane for the 86 there and 95 Pump fuel here, however it still gives you an idea as to which flows better.

Due to the extra airflow from a drop-in filter, it will cause the car to run a little leaner which will usually result in more power, however a leaner car is more octane dependent for pre-detonation prevention.

As @FT_86_SM_GP said, the K&N will be your best bang for buck. We have found its airflow increase to be similar to that of a AFE filter.

Another advantage, and probably he biggest, is that drop-in filters are usually washable. This means that instead of waiting 30000-45000km (which is far to long for our local conditions IMO) for your filter to be replaced by the dealer, you can wash your filter say every 10000km and simply swap back to stock when its time for a service.

sav 02-05-2015 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2118288)
Oiled or non-oiled.
pick a color.
impossible to void warranty.
I went with afe dry.
Search.

ROTFLOL!!! :D

BRY100 02-05-2015 02:17 AM

Price check - K&N cost me R910 last week at ATS.

FR-STEEL 02-05-2015 02:19 AM

Is HKS an oiled filter or dry? Couldn't find clarification through threads or description of product!

sav 02-05-2015 03:40 AM

HKS is usually dry foam but I could be wrong. I like the Afe dry filters.

sav 02-05-2015 03:41 AM

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/en/produc...ter/index.html

"Joining of each layer was changed from flame lamination to net type joining that does not affect intake air flow. Dry 3 layer structure enables lower resistanc"

Desi Gt86 02-05-2015 05:26 AM

Thanks Dammod,

Cheddaa 02-05-2015 06:14 AM

Got a K&N drop in filter from ATS as well about a year back. Seems if you wanna bring it from overseas you will have to pay 20% customs plus 14%vat if they decide to check your package.

WesleyG 02-05-2015 06:32 AM

yep, and thats if you even get it, with all the post office kak happening now

Ryan86 02-05-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desi Gt86 (Post 2118278)
Hi all,

Considering an aftermarket air filter. My car is stock standard but after 10 000kms looking for a bit more without voiding warranty.

Any suggestions?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Desi

You in DBN I've seen your Reg?
Our KZN club do group buy orders for intakes and filters, If you interested.

Desi Gt86 02-05-2015 03:44 PM

Hi Ryan,

Yes I am in Dbn but you may have seen the wrong reg. I don't have personalized plates. I would definitely been keen on te next group buy. Please can u let me know.

Thank u

WallsAndFoundations 02-09-2015 01:37 PM

I personally have the TRD drop in. I really really like it. Not like an insane increase in power but 1-2whp is actually noticeable

FT_86_SM_GP 02-09-2015 04:06 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35125

BLITZ intake + 6.7 WHP
AFE TakEDA intake + 6.3 WHP
Blitz filter + 6.1 WHP
AEM intake +5.8 WHP
K&N filter + 5.7 WHP
INJEN intake +5.6 WHP
AVO intake + 5.5 WHP
A'PEXi filter + 5.5 WHP
K&N intake + 4.3 WHP
TRD intake + 2.5 WHP
HKS intake + 1.5 WHP
Weapon-R intake - 0.6 WHP

The TRD drop in filter in SA costs around R1367...

WallsAndFoundations 02-09-2015 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT_86_SM_GP (Post 2125027)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35125

BLITZ intake + 6.7 WHP
AFE TakEDA intake + 6.3 WHP
Blitz filter + 6.1 WHP
AEM intake +5.8 WHP
K&N filter + 5.7 WHP
INJEN intake +5.6 WHP
AVO intake + 5.5 WHP
A'PEXi filter + 5.5 WHP
K&N intake + 4.3 WHP
TRD intake + 2.5 WHP
HKS intake + 1.5 WHP
Weapon-R intake - 0.6 WHP

The TRD drop in filter in SA costs around R1367...

Looks like I'll be replacing filter soon!

HunterGreene 05-15-2015 05:19 PM

So does anyone know if the TRD drop-in filter is washable/re-useable?

LostSalad 05-16-2015 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dammod (Post 2119101)
... you can wash your filter say every 10000km and simply swap back to stock when its time for a service.

Why swap back to stock? Is it just to prevent "rocking the boat" so to speak? It just sounds rather tame as far as mods go.

Or is it to be cheap and score the replacement that they give you at the service :D

Dammod 05-18-2015 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2251526)
Why swap back to stock? Is it just to prevent "rocking the boat" so to speak? It just sounds rather tame as far as mods go.

Or is it to be cheap and score the replacement that they give you at the service :D

Yep, I have heard of car companies denying engine warrenty repairs due to coilover suspension, they usually look for any excuse.

Since it only takes 5min to swap, I think its worth it.

AND, like you said, you want the new replacement filter which you paid for in the purchase of your car anyway ;)

LostSalad 05-18-2015 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dammod (Post 2253200)
Yep, I have heard of car companies denying engine warrenty repairs due to coilover suspension, they usually look for any excuse.

Since it only takes 5min to swap, I think its worth it.

AND, like you said, you want the new replacement filter which you paid for in the purchase of your car anyway ;)

Sigh, what a sad situation. On the one hand, I understand their position (because I'm sure a lot of chops have too much entitlement as to what should or should not be fixed under warranty), but the way people get shafted and blamed is just unnecessary >.>

I think a filter is next on my list, seems pretty fool-proof :thumbup:

BRY100 05-19-2015 04:42 AM

I put the original filter back in this morning before taking it in for its service, and wow, felt like the car was gasping for air on the way to the dealership..... Driving it back to back definitely shows the difference a performance filter makes.

LostSalad 05-20-2015 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRY100 (Post 2254333)
I put the original filter back in this morning before taking it in for its service, and wow, felt like the car was gasping for air on the way to the dealership..... Driving it back to back definitely shows the difference a performance filter makes.

You sure this isn't placebo? What I mean is, before you put the filter in, I'm sure you thought the car drives fantastically right? What feedback did you get from the car that felt different? Not trying to argue, I'm considering buying one and it's good info :)

BRY100 05-20-2015 01:24 PM

I agree that 5HP is hardly going to make a difference, yet I definitely felt the car wasn't pulling as strongly when pushing on a bit. If you look at how thick the standard filter is, and compare it to the K&N filter I have in, there is less air getting into the engine with the stock filter, without a doubt..... and having said all of that, it is also probably a bit of placebo affect as well, but hey, its one of the cheaper modding options out there, so why not. Also just to add, Bedfordview Toyota didn't even bat an eyelid at my BRZ exhaust, so I'm sure I could have left the K&N in as well.

ShaunWRX 05-20-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2255910)
You sure this isn't placebo? What I mean is, before you put the filter in, I'm sure you thought the car drives fantastically right? What feedback did you get from the car that felt different? Not trying to argue, I'm considering buying one and it's good info :)

Buy it. you'll thank us later

LostSalad 05-20-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRY100 (Post 2255968)
I agree that 5HP is hardly going to make a difference, yet I definitely felt the car wasn't pulling as strongly when pushing on a bit. If you look at how thick the standard filter is, and compare it to the K&N filter I have in, there is less air getting into the engine with the stock filter, without a doubt..... and having said all of that, it is also probably a bit of placebo affect as well, but hey, its one of the cheaper modding options out there, so why not. Also just to add, Bedfordview Toyota didn't even bat an eyelid at my BRZ exhaust, so I'm sure I could have left the K&N in as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaunWRX (Post 2255973)
Buy it. you'll thank us later

I have the BRZ exhaust as well. I swear that after putting it on the power band widened a little bit. Once again, a small change, but subtle things add up to how the car feels overall.

I do believe you guys, and I will probably buy one soon.

Any comments on the sound?

Ryan86 05-21-2015 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2255910)
You sure this isn't placebo? What I mean is, before you put the filter in, I'm sure you thought the car drives fantastically right? What feedback did you get from the car that felt different? Not trying to argue, I'm considering buying one and it's good info :)

Drop in Filter takes the 86 from
116wkw to 122wkw
185nm to 193nm
These figures for the coast.

BRY100 05-21-2015 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2256462)
I have the BRZ exhaust as well. I swear that after putting it on the power band widened a little bit. Once again, a small change, but subtle things add up to how the car feels overall.

I do believe you guys, and I will probably buy one soon.

Any comments on the sound?



The sound gets a little louder, but not much. It does however get a nicer (slightly deeper) tone.

FT_86_SM_GP 05-21-2015 05:08 AM

Its unlikely you will see that KZN 6wkw(5.17%) gain in JHB,

From my memory @Die$eL tested his drop in filter at Schalks Conversions(Gauteng) in early 2014
and:

115wkw to 117wkw
Which is 2wkw (1.74%) gain,

In terms of sound getting louder, you can enhance this a little with the TRD Sound Changer...(Could be a mind gain as well...who knows) :bonk:

Die$eL 05-21-2015 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT_86_SM_GP (Post 2257023)
Its unlikely you will see that KZN 6wkw(5.17%) gain in JHB,

From my memory @Die$eL tested his drop in filter at Schalks Conversions(Gauteng) in early 2014
and:

115wkw to 117wkw
Which is 2wkw (1.74%) gain,

In terms of sound getting louder, you can enhance this a little with the TRD Sound Changer...(Could be a mind gain as well...who knows) :bonk:

Correct, was a 2WKW gain

ShaunWRX 05-21-2015 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2256462)
I have the BRZ exhaust as well. I swear that after putting it on the power band widened a little bit. Once again, a small change, but subtle things add up to how the car feels overall.

I do believe you guys, and I will probably buy one soon.

Any comments on the sound?

I wasnt expecting any change but was pleasantly surprised that the sound became slighter louder and then louder still with the software change. :thumbsup:

raven1231 05-21-2015 11:37 AM

Running the perrin panel filter on mine and for the price I couldn't be happier


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