Suberman's guide on how to make the car fix his inability to drive correctly.

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[Ubersuber]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

This is kinda funny.

A bump stop IS a spring. It doesn't need to be damped because it's a secondary spring in a system, and is typically at it's full extended (free) length.

A bump stop isn't a spring just because it is elastic. Ball bearings are elastic but not springs.

A bump stop compresses under pressure and then extends back to its original uncompressed length, that isn't springy.

A spring as the term is understood in vehicle engineering develops harmonic upon release from compression ( or indeed upon release from extension though that doesn't generally happen on vehicles).

You can call a bump stop a spring if you want but that distracts you from the fundamental difference between the two devices. One needs a damper and the other doesn't.

And "dampening" in the context of spring motion is as semantically correct as irregardless. It is in common usage but it isn't correctly used in the context of damping a spring harmonic.

[Shankenstein]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

I bet you we're all test subjects of a psychological experiment where by a disturbance is introduced into a generally stable ecosystem and all of our responses and patterns of patience are analyzed and graphed so as to answer the possible hypothesis of how long does it take an average human to lose their minds when dealing with a person who is simultaneously articulate and responsive yet bat-shit crazy and illogical.

Or maybe ... just maybe, you ARE that disturbance in the force.

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Ubersuber

A bump stop isn't a spring just because it is elastic. Ball bearings are elastic but not springs.

A bump stop compresses under pressure and then extends back to its original uncompressed length, that isn't springy.

Physics 101 grade: F.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by Shankenstein

Or maybe ... just maybe, you ARE that disturbance in the force.

i believe my sentence does not require any comma, hyphen or semicolon use


feel free to point out the mistake(s)

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

i believe my sentence does not require any comma, hyphen or semicolon use


feel free to point out the mistake(s)

Whereby is one word.

BOOM.

[jebuwh]

And we still no nothing about his racing experience, car knowledge sources, ect.

Can you please enlighten us on where you gained this great knowledge so we can all go learn too?

[NissanGuy]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Whereby is one word.

BOOM.

Definition of hypothesis.

SPLAT

[boredom.is.me]

If I must interject...

Originally Posted by 7thgear

I bet (get rid of 'you') we're all test subjects of a psychological experiment whereby a disturbance is introduced into a generally stable ecosystem and all of our responses and patterns of patience are analyzed and graphed so as to answer the possible hypothesis of how long does it take an average human to lose their minds when dealing with a person who is simultaneously articulate and responsive, yet bat-shit crazy and illogical.

Originally Posted by Shankenstein

Or maybe ... just maybe, you ARE that disturbance in the force.

Originally Posted by 7thgear

i believe my sentence does not require any comma, hyphen or semicolon use


feel free to point out the mistake(s)

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Whereby is one word.

BOOM.

Considering that this is the interwebz, 7th wrote pretty damn close to perfect. I don't think 'whereby' requires a comma. Does it???


Screw this bogus topic. Let's discuss proper grammar. I'll be in charge since I grammar the goodliest.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Ubersuber

A bump stop isn't a spring just because it is elastic. Ball bearings are elastic but not springs.

A bump stop compresses under pressure and then extends back to its original uncompressed length, that isn't springy.

Something doesn't have to be "springy" to be a spring.

A spring is an elastic object used to store mechanical energy.

A bow (as in bow and arrow) is a spring, but it isn't "springy".

Originally Posted by Ubersuber

A spring as the term is understood in vehicle engineering develops harmonic upon release from compression ( or indeed upon release from extension though that doesn't generally happen on vehicles).

A bump stop like we have is an elastomer spring, which is still a spring. It doesn't need damping because elastomer is self damping. Look at early mountain bike forks, they were just elastomer springs and didn't require a shock absorber due to the nature of elastomer, BUT that doesn't mean it wasn't a spring inside it. Just because it doesn't need a damper doesn't mean it isn't a spring.

Originally Posted by Ubersuber

You can call a bump stop a spring if you want but that distracts you from the fundamental difference between the two devices. One needs a damper and the other doesn't.

What relevance does this have to what was being discussed? It doesn't change what anyone is saying about how the bump stops interact with the rest of the suspension setup.

Regardless of how you define it, the bump stop does increase the effective spring rate as it is compressed. Whether that increase requires more damping or not hasn't even been brought up.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Whereby is one word.

BOOM.

that's an issue of spelling, not punctuation


bordom.is.me actually caught the comma at the end, although I could debate it...

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Khorne

Nah this is Suberman, hard to decide which of them is worse. CJ is funnier though.

But both would look pretty funny going to the next level with each other?

[Khorne]

Originally Posted by s2d4

But both would look pretty funny going to the next level with each other?

Yes, this needs to happen. Hey @Ubersuber and @Rocket.BRZ please discuss things for us to watch.

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

[I] believe my sentence does not require any comma, hyphen[,] or semicolon use[.]


[F]eel free to point out the mistake(s)[.]

Classic.