09-14-2016, 05:19 PM | #4397 | |
Custom User Title
|
Quote:
__________________
LOCUST 2015 FR-S (STX) and 2012 Evo X MR Instagram: LocustAutoX Sponsors:DSGPerformance Drift Office Evil Apex Racing |
|
09-14-2016, 05:24 PM | #4398 | |
Custom User Title
|
Quote:
And let's be VERY clear here. Local events don't mean anything as far as classing goes. There's money involved in national events and if you're going after prize money you want to go where you have a reasonable chance to win. Right now it looks like CS in anything other than an ND Miata is not that place.
__________________
LOCUST 2015 FR-S (STX) and 2012 Evo X MR Instagram: LocustAutoX Sponsors:DSGPerformance Drift Office Evil Apex Racing |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Locust For This Useful Post: | simpleisbest (09-14-2016) |
09-14-2016, 05:31 PM | #4399 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Drives: '05 Elise
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 479
Thanks: 164
Thanked 328 Times in 199 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Yea, I'll admit you guys are making good points. I think the most solid point is the CS ND = top AS/BS cars though. Who knows, I might jump ship if it stays this way another year myself, haha.
__________________
'05 Lotus Elise
'19 BMW M2C '22 Subaru WRX ex '15 Scion FR-S |
09-14-2016, 06:34 PM | #4400 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Drives: 2016 FR-S MT, 2015 Scion FR-S AT,
Location: SW Fl
Posts: 487
Thanks: 271
Thanked 307 Times in 180 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I have always considered contingency to be a means of merely offsetting the cost of the hobby rather than covering it, so prize money has never been the primary concern. (Although I did run BFG's this year at a couple national events because their contingency was worth about 3X what Bridgestone was offering for my STU 350Z) I intend to run my new FRS for at least the next season. -If for no other reason than to be one of the many data points that hopefully leads to a change. I really enjoy driving these cars. If they get relegated to the back of the pack for too long, I will probably still keep my car and just go back to tire-warming for national events. |
|
09-14-2016, 08:56 PM | #4401 |
Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: 2016 FR-S
Location: Denver
Posts: 68
Thanks: 48
Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Locust makes some good points. Start writing your letter to get the ND moved to BS guys.
|
09-14-2016, 10:31 PM | #4402 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: '22 BRZ
Location: PA
Posts: 1,839
Thanks: 2,307
Thanked 1,478 Times in 770 Posts
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Please just get it moved to AS, I don't need that thing in BS with me next year
__________________
|
The Following User Says Thank You to DocWalt For This Useful Post: | Shark_Bait88 (09-15-2016) |
09-14-2016, 10:41 PM | #4403 |
Custom User Title
|
I just ran the times for all the NDs and all the 86s through a spreadsheet and got the averages.
Average ND Times East: 64.544 West: 61.972 Average 86 Times (including Ogburn) East: 65.723 West: 63.056 So ya... it's over a second better on each course on average. The lowest ND finished 67th. Lowest twin was 84th. 7/23 trophies went to NDs for 17 entries. 10/23 trophies went to twins for 40 entries. That's a 41.1% trophy rate for the ND and a 25% trophy rate for an 86. Based upon class participation you would expect an even distribution to be 4-5 NDs (~4.5) in trophies and 10-11 (~10.7) 86s. More numbers for everyone... Average A-Street East: 64.491 Average B-Street East: 65.406 Average Miata East: 64.544 Average FR-S Only East: 65.579 (still a full second gap even if you remove BRZs) Average BRZ Only East: 66.638 (sample set of 6 drivers only) Average D-Street East: 66.947 Now I have no way of knowing which FR-S drivers are on TRD parts and which aren't so the BRZ only statistic isn't very representative since the sample size is so small. However, just looking at the times there does anyone have any doubt that we would kill all of D-Street if moved down? Meanwhile the ND Miata is just five hundredths off A-Street and NINE TENTHS faster than B-Street.
__________________
LOCUST 2015 FR-S (STX) and 2012 Evo X MR Instagram: LocustAutoX Sponsors:DSGPerformance Drift Office Evil Apex Racing Last edited by Locust; 09-15-2016 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Corrected trophy rate. |
09-14-2016, 11:12 PM | #4404 |
Custom User Title
|
BTW I'll go through the rest of the Championship Tour results for the year later on when I have more time. Based on my observations earlier in the year and locally against an ND here I expect the data to come out the same as the nationals results.
__________________
LOCUST 2015 FR-S (STX) and 2012 Evo X MR Instagram: LocustAutoX Sponsors:DSGPerformance Drift Office Evil Apex Racing |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Locust For This Useful Post: | Shark_Bait88 (09-15-2016), simpleisbest (09-15-2016) |
09-15-2016, 06:41 AM | #4405 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Drives: '05 Elise
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 479
Thanks: 164
Thanked 328 Times in 199 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Do that, and send scca a letter with the results
__________________
'05 Lotus Elise
'19 BMW M2C '22 Subaru WRX ex '15 Scion FR-S |
The Following User Says Thank You to MarkR171 For This Useful Post: | Shark_Bait88 (09-15-2016) |
09-15-2016, 01:39 PM | #4406 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Drives: frs
Location: alabama
Posts: 67
Thanks: 14
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Thats the data we need to flood the scca with to get ND moved. Good work!
|
09-15-2016, 02:56 PM | #4407 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: '22 BRZ
Location: PA
Posts: 1,839
Thanks: 2,307
Thanked 1,478 Times in 770 Posts
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Agreed. ND doesn't belong in the same class as the 86. Move 86 down or ND up
__________________
|
09-15-2016, 04:00 PM | #4408 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2015 Halo FR-S
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 328
Thanks: 87
Thanked 233 Times in 132 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
That brings me to an interesting point. How bad is PAX going to be for CS now that the ND in CS is faster than the BS cars? |
|
09-15-2016, 04:29 PM | #4409 | |
Custom User Title
|
Quote:
__________________
LOCUST 2015 FR-S (STX) and 2012 Evo X MR Instagram: LocustAutoX Sponsors:DSGPerformance Drift Office Evil Apex Racing |
|
09-15-2016, 08:45 PM | #4410 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: '22 BRZ
Location: PA
Posts: 1,839
Thanks: 2,307
Thanked 1,478 Times in 770 Posts
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
If they bump the ND to BS or AS Rick will take note of that and not totally screw over CS
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Cinco De Mayo SCCA SOLO | Ryeong86 | NY / NJ / CT / PA | 0 | 04-23-2013 05:22 PM |
Koni Sports in SCCA SOLO | Ryeong86 | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 4 | 04-22-2013 12:58 PM |
2013 Preliminary SCCA SOLO and PRO SOLO National Schedule | Scooby South | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 13 | 12-05-2012 08:08 AM |
Houston SCCA Solo #9 - 5 FRS, 1 BRZ | hankster | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 0 | 10-09-2012 01:35 PM |
SCCA Solo Car Class for the FR-S/BRZ? | MrVito | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 31 | 06-15-2012 10:03 AM |