Got a track related question? I'll try to answer.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

Nope, didn't spin or go off. Turning it on and off numerous times didn't clear it.



I actually have no idea. I didn't even realize the ABS light was on until I parked the car in the paddock and saw the light right as I went to turn off the car. I ran another session and it just turned itself off as I drove down the front straight after entering the track. The ABS went out again half way through the session when I was chasing a friend of mine. Tires locked up for just a moment before I lifted and kept going. Didn't do it the last session of my day and has never come back. Not a clue what it's about.

Here's a video of the 2nd time it happened. You can see it at 2:45.

I need a datalog.

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I need a datalog.

Don't have one, but thanks anyway.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

Don't have one, but thanks anyway.

Start logging... it'll help me develop ideas on what could be going on. Even torque is better than nothing if you can log brake pressures and wheel speeds.

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Start logging... it'll help me develop ideas on what could be going on. Even torque is better than nothing if you can log brake pressures and wheel speeds.

I currently use Torque for displaying temps and random data. Completely forgot it had data logging abilities. I'll try it out next track day.

[TURBObro10]

Sort of track related...a new private racetrack is currently being built in my area, but membership costs are upwards of 40K, which unfortunately I don't have lying around. So far they claim there will be no track days available to non-members. Is it common for tracks to be private when they are first built, and open to the public later? I really want to get into racing my BRZ and the next closes track is over 4 hours away.

[jjaisli]

That's really up to the individual track and it's owners. Monticello Motorsports park opened as a private club but immediately started hosting HPDE events with various groups. (It opened during the heart of the recession) For the last few years, aside from the odd PCA event or club race, it's back to a strictly private venue.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by TURBObro10

Sort of track related...a new private racetrack is currently being built in my area, but membership costs are upwards of 40K, which unfortunately I don't have lying around. So far they claim there will be no track days available to non-members. Is it common for tracks to be private when they are first built, and open to the public later? I really want to get into racing my BRZ and the next closes track is over 4 hours away.

There are a lot of private tracks that never open to the public; I can think of quite a few within a few hours from me

[EAGLE5]

If I had 1000 acres and 100 million, I'd build a private track.

Actually, a neighbor up the road supposedly has a private motocross track.

[Northwest86]

Just tried out the Club Racers after messing around in the Hybrid Pad world. Wow are they nice. Still going to use them fairly quickly but nowhere near as fast as some pads. I tried a set of Forza FP3's which claim great things but sorely lack in the back them up department. I got 2 events from them compared to 5 from the HC800s.

I will definitely be looking into an Essex/AP BBK very soon though with the amount of consumables I'm going through. The pricetag in Aus though is daunting at around $3700. (2700 from the conversion + the Australia tax.) I will 100% be going Club Racers again though. Those things are amazing.

[BRZtoni]

any thoughts on a bump steer kit? picking up one soon
the discontinued one from whiteline stil on ebay.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by BRZtoni

any thoughts on a bump steer kit? picking up one soon
the discontinued one from whiteline stil on ebay.

What are you trying to fix?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Northwest86

Just tried out the Club Racers after messing around in the Hybrid Pad world. Wow are they nice. Still going to use them fairly quickly but nowhere near as fast as some pads. I tried a set of Forza FP3's which claim great things but sorely lack in the back them up department. I got 2 events from them compared to 5 from the HC800s.

I will definitely be looking into an Essex/AP BBK very soon though with the amount of consumables I'm going through. The pricetag in Aus though is daunting at around $3700. (2700 from the conversion + the Australia tax.) I will 100% be going Club Racers again though. Those things are amazing.

CSG has Club Racers in AP Sprint sizes

Please share your experiences elsewhere; many people are afraid to make the jump due to cost. They don't realize the world of difference it makes in having confidence in your brakes at the track.

[zdr93523]

Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

Interesting. So you're saying just adding a rear sway bar will help the car be a little faster since you add rotation easier? Is there a sway bar out there you'd recommend?

Which suspension parts would you change/use to create a truly balanced setup?

You seem to be asking the right questions and listening intently to the answers Mike is providing. To expand on those answers slightly, keep in mind that the rear sway bar solution is just as Mike said, it is not ideal, but a stop-gap solution to make the car rotate more while you're learning. This works well while learning but once you reach the limit of the car (as opposed to the limit of your skill) you will find that it would be quite well balanced stock and the rear bar creates a few problems. The major issue is excessive oversteer while having to feather the throttle from the inability to apply power during mid-corner and corner exit due to the rear wheels no longer functioning as independent suspension like a live axle muscle car. This teaches you how to balance the car with your right foot at a lower limit than what you would have with a proper suspension setup. This is where the high-end suspension setups offered by CSG and others come into play to provide the proper balance while keeping the corners as independent as possible.

[Apex_BRZ]

Originally Posted by zdr93523

You seem to be asking the right questions and listening intently to the answers Mike is providing. To expand on those answers slightly, keep in mind that the rear sway bar solution is just as Mike said, it is not ideal, but a stop-gap solution to make the car rotate more while you're learning. This works well while learning but once you reach the limit of the car (as opposed to the limit of your skill) you will find that it would be quite well balanced stock and the rear bar creates a few problems. The major issue is excessive oversteer while having to feather the throttle from the inability to apply power during mid-corner and corner exit due to the rear wheels no longer functioning as independent suspension like a live axle muscle car. This teaches you how to balance the car with your right foot at a lower limit than what you would have with a proper suspension setup. This is where the high-end suspension setups offered by CSG and others come into play to provide the proper balance while keeping the corners as independent as possible.

I think I ran into this a bit at the last track day. While hustling it around turns several sessions in, I couldn't help but find myself wondering why in the world I wanted to change the balance. It just felt "right" to me.

I wouldn't mind swapping to a decent set of coil overs, but as far as the balance itself goes...it feels fine at my current skill level and I'm in no hurry to change it.