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swift996 · 08-13-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tech4pdx

Yes I was.. Pure meth. No water.

Why no water? Have you tried both? I've heard evo guys say they make less power with pure meth (not sure if that's true). Just curious.

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 01:55 PM

I trust my tuner. Trust is an important thing. I asked him about it. He told me unnecessary. Pure meth will cool the intake charge and it can be tuned to make power (which it has).

Besides, not being ignorant but I prefer to only have fuel/air in my combustion chamber. Nothing wrong with getting steam cleaned though.

sw20kosh · 08-13-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996

Why no water? Have you tried both? I've heard evo guys say they make less power with pure meth (not sure if that's true). Just curious.

The 50/50 is mainly to make the liquid inflammable. It is a safety measure. I would run 100% meth if I didn't worry about catching myself/my car on fire in a colission/crash/leak etc. There is already one flammable liquid on board (whose containment vessel and lines are ultra engineered to not fail)...don't need another.

I've talked to several tuners and they all laugh at pure water injection. It doesn't make power. Need the meth.

jamesm · 08-13-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

The 50/50 is mainly to make the liquid inflammable. It is a safety measure. I would run 100% meth if I didn't worry about catching myself/my car on fire in a colission/crash/leak etc. There is already one flammable liquid on board (whose containment vessel and lines are ultra engineered to not fail)...don't need another.

I've talked to several tuners and they all laugh at pure water injection. It doesn't make power. Need the meth.

that's exactly why i won't run meth. well, that and the fact that having to refill it all the time sucks. the water solves the first issue, but not the second.

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 04:35 PM

Although I acknowledge your viewpoint on the water mix for safety, we are only talking about a gallon here (most of the time not full) towards the front corner of the trunk. There are greater risks in life.

Hell, modding anything is a risk. Besides, I see people running around all the time with red gasoline containers strapped to a hitch platform on the outside.

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 04:37 PM

Regarding having to fill it all the time, not necessarily true. I have heard a gallon can go a few months on a street car. I'm not WOT 24/7.

Let's worry more about that HPFP under our hoods.

sw20kosh · 08-13-2013, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech4pdx

Although I acknowledge your viewpoint on the water mix for safety, we are only talking about a gallon here (most of the time not full) towards the front corner of the trunk. There are greater risks in life.

Hell, modding anything is a risk. Besides, I see people running around all the time with red gasoline containers strapped to a hitch platform on the outside.

3 gal of pure meth in my trunk worries me. =)

For a HPDE track day and my flow rate, I need ~7 gals for the whole day...hence the 3 gal reservoir.

chadstyle · 08-13-2013, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

3 gal of pure meth in my trunk worries me. =)

Sounds like an episode of Breaking Bad

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 04:48 PM

You can always get a thick steel containment box built to house the plastic tank. Would be a fun project for a skilled welder. I've thought about this, just not priority right now. Also, you can maybe bring a 5 gal drum with you to track?

sw20kosh · 08-13-2013, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech4pdx

You can always get a thick steel containment box built to house the plastic tank. Would be a fun project for a skilled welder. I've thought about this, just not priority right now. Also, you can maybe bring a 5 gal drum with you to track?

I do bring one already. The 3 gal reservoir only lasts me 2-3 sessions. A 1 gal wouldn't last 1 session. With the sloshing around and G-forces, you want the reservoir to be as full as possible too, otherwise the pickup gets uncovered and you start injecting air...

What flow rate are you using (what nozzle)?

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 05:19 PM

You could always upgrade to a 5 gal tank:

http://www.aemelectronics.com/5-gall...ection-kit-694

I will be upgrading mine at some point from the 1 gal I have now. I won't do it until I build a steel containment box for it though.

tech4pdx · 08-13-2013, 05:25 PM

Not sure on the flow rate. I'm using this kit:

http://www.aemelectronics.com/1-gall...ection-kit-691

It was installed and tuned at PRE racing.

PRE-Erich · 08-13-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS

It is what it is. @PRE-Erich stop turning up your dyno!!!

Turning up the dyno, lol. The dyno is just a tool for measuring gains and numbers can only really be compared to numbers on the same vehicle on the same day.

invisage · 08-13-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

He said what headers they are in the post you quoted. P n L

hahah dont know how I missed that :P maybe the flu meds

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tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I trust my tuner. Trust is an important thing. I asked him about it. He told me unnecessary. Pure meth will cool the intake charge and it can be tuned to make power (which it has). Besides, not being ignorant but I prefer to only have fuel/air in my combustion chamber. Nothing wrong with getting steam cleaned though.

08-13-2013, 04:35 PM	#915
tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Although I acknowledge your viewpoint on the water mix for safety, we are only talking about a gallon here (most of the time not full) towards the front corner of the trunk. There are greater risks in life. Hell, modding anything is a risk. Besides, I see people running around all the time with red gasoline containers strapped to a hitch platform on the outside.

08-13-2013, 04:37 PM	#916
tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Regarding having to fill it all the time, not necessarily true. I have heard a gallon can go a few months on a street car. I'm not WOT 24/7. Let's worry more about that HPFP under our hoods.

08-13-2013, 04:48 PM	#919
tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can always get a thick steel containment box built to house the plastic tank. Would be a fun project for a skilled welder. I've thought about this, just not priority right now. Also, you can maybe bring a 5 gal drum with you to track?

08-13-2013, 05:19 PM	#921
tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You could always upgrade to a 5 gal tank: http://www.aemelectronics.com/5-gall...ection-kit-694 I will be upgrading mine at some point from the 1 gal I have now. I won't do it until I build a steel containment box for it though.

08-13-2013, 05:25 PM	#922
tech4pdx Make love Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: H8R.. Not really Location: Edge of the Milky Way Posts: 780 Thanks: 524 Thanked 214 Times in 143 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not sure on the flow rate. I'm using this kit: http://www.aemelectronics.com/1-gall...ection-kit-691 It was installed and tuned at PRE racing.

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