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07-13-2013, 09:52 AM | #43 |
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I didn't mean the bias comment as a personal attack, just that we all have personal opinions on a subject that's gotten heated lately. I think this has turned into a great opportunity here for some very beneficial real-world information. Excited to see where this goes!
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Just so you can see a little teaser of the turbo cars.. John's run was run file #2 and was the best of the 3 runs on his tune. We were up to run 10 and you can see the gains. On run 11 he cracked 300 HP but I will leave the final numbers for him to post later.
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07-13-2013, 09:54 AM | #45 | |
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BTW, JV, I'm not aware of any of the majors not giving free updates with tuning. I know you do, we always have, so who does not? |
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I eat, sleep, breath, and live cars. I love stuff like this and while debates may get heated the community wins as it pushes tuners to their limits with these motors and we see what their capabilities and weak points are. I for one would love to see a comparison like this just because I am such an enthusiast.
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07-13-2013, 10:24 AM | #47 |
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The one time I spoke with John he was very helpful and professional and did not bash anyone. I hear good things about his tunes and service. All I hear about Visconti doing is tuning. Correct me if I'm wrong. What I like about Tony at FA20club is that he is building headers, turbo kits, intakes, motors, etc, in addition to tuning. Not only is he installing his products but he's also selling, installing, and tuning it as well as other manufacturer's products. He doesn't mind to tune for his header or turbo kit or someone elses. He's glad to sell you a header or supercharger from another manufacturer. He has experience with this platform in many areas from start to finish. Sales/tech support, instalation, and tuning the final product. He's a go to guy for all your needs. This is not to speak negatively of anyone. If anything perhaps doing only tuning can be a benefit. However, I prefer the all around knowledge and experience that comes from being a complete shop.
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Broad knowledge is definitely a boon. I'm just hoping Tony and John both agree to do this comparison. I have to respect Chadstyles for putting this out here and covering all the expenses from his own pocket. We're all enthusiasts and passionate about these cars. We'll go a lot further through camaraderie instead of confrontation. Chad's tuner-shootout idea is the first forward progress I've seen on this debate in a year. What say the Master Tuners?
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07-14-2013, 08:39 PM | #49 |
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Stuff like this is requested from time to time. I don't have time for games or who makes more power crap.
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07-14-2013, 09:19 PM | #51 | |
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I was told over a month ago if I couldn't make it to FL Tony was going to tune those cars. My customers rather large GTR build got pushed back and I simply couldn't make it over there. Apparently they need injector cranking settings now.. Just another example power isn't everything John |
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07-14-2013, 10:21 PM | #52 | |
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Cold cranking is fine, hot cranking could be better... I believe I didn't bash you in the thread, I posted the truth and facts of what happen. I don't hold a grudge with you, like I said in the thread, you were always very quick to answer my calls or request and I do appreciate it. I only hope you can see past your rivalry with Tony and help me out.
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The injectors you have are Bosch and have the same settings as the DW , ID or FIC.. Because they all Bosch based.. For the most part balancing is what sets them a part If you or Tony needed info from me you or him should have or could have called, PM'ed, texted etc.. Instead you make a post asking about it, I only saw your thread because I was feeding one of the trolls here in this thread. Just like most of the stuff I've done, nothing is given to me, I'm have to start from scratch.. I spent several hours trying to figure out how to make those injectors start , hot and cold...idle ..and I still don't think it's as good as it can be. Your a cool dude but let's flip this the other way, how about Tony emails me your tune and I'll put the injector settings in for you..then problem solved. But this is no different than me selling a EBCS for controlling boost.. It's a part I sell, others sell it.. I don't tell people how to setup the boost control tables or the amount of wastegate duty you need to make desired boost.. It's the tuners job.. Tuning can be a bitch, but it's what a few of us signed up for John |
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I guess I'll live with it. Until further notice.
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I've always responded to your texts.. If someone ever needs a bone or a favor.. Asking on the forum is not the place.. You would have been much better off asking me over the phone.. I don't know a single person that likes being put on the spot, which you kinda did , if you wanted to or not John |
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I didnt write any lies, didnt bash you or anyone, just posted facts. And I reiterate, I even posted that, You always responded to my texts.... Whats done is done. Good luck with everything and again thanks for the help you provided to my car.
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