Shifter rattle. Normal?

[slyphen]

I've had this rattle since the beginning. It wasn't till i broke in the car and start to break 4k RPM did i notice the rattling noise. I ignored since it wasn't that big of an issue, mostly because i read other people having similar issues and its nothing to worry about.

After owning the car for over a year, i decided to get all the small nuances fixed and get it covered under warranty. Dealer started with replacing some kind of washer and believe the issue has been fixed. However when i got the car back, i've noticed the rattle is still there when i did some mid-high rev pulls at 2nd gear and part of 3rd gear.

Second time around, we changed a nylon collar. The list specified the following.
- 317121 Gear Shift Boot R&R
25025CA000 Collar
35035CA020 Bushing O Ring
35038CA010 Plate Washer
35057CA010 Clamp Snap
35016CA020 Boot Dust

Once again, they believe it has been fixed (was told they drove it and no rattling)... of course when i did a similar test as last time 2-3 gear pull, the rattling came back.

So finally i decided to do some research and found out Scion had a TSB regarding the rattle and has called for the replacement of the entire Shift Lever Assembly.

I noticed the dealer of the TSB and they agreed to try it. once again they told me it was fixed and when i got it, it was not... and it actually got worse! the rattling is louder now and almost unbearable anytime i approach 4k rpm. the only way i live through it is turn the music way up.
Here is what they replaced:
317601 Gear Shift Lever, Bushing &/OR Boot R&R

At this point I have my list of suspicions, but i'd rather keep them to myself and just have them figure it out. The dealer has scheduled me on the 6th to bring the car in. I will this time sit with their tech and show him exactly what i'm talking about, although the video already does. A subaru engineer is being called in to check out the issue as well. I'll keep you guys updated.

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Edit: added additional details of the issue.

[shadoken]

Theres a TSB for it , so you can go to the dealer and have it fixed.

S-SB-0014-13 : Rattle Noise From MT Shift Lever

[slyphen]

Originally Posted by shadoken

Theres a TSB for it , so you can go to the dealer and have it fixed.

S-SB-0014-13 : Rattle Noise From MT Shift Lever

hm, i wonder why they haven't done that already. I suppose subaru don't read Scion's TSBs...

Edit: entire shift lever assy. it looks like. o boy...

[canadaRS1.0]

too bad that TSB is bullshit.

I have a 2015 past the VIN # it lists.. same problem.

also in many other threads about this problem, many people have stated they had the TSB done and the issue came back after a while.

it seems like a JDM TRD (not the TRD quick shift kit, but the full assembly) or STI shift assembly is rattle free.. but it's also like 400 bucks.

[slyphen]

ok, so Subaru performed the TSB. swapped the entire shifter lever assembly. the rattle is still there, and its actually worse... they are calling in one of their engineers on monday to see what the hell is going on... meanwhile, anyone got any ideas?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by slyphen

ok, so Subaru performed the TSB. swapped the entire shifter lever assembly. the rattle is still there, and its actually worse... they are calling in one of their engineers on monday to see what the hell is going on... meanwhile, anyone got any ideas?

It's the TOB .....


humfrz

[Teseo]

I vote for tranny mount

[MrDinkleman]

I have a 10th Anniversary NB Miata that used to have the Nardi shift knob. These knobs typically develop a rattle. The knob is weighted internally for better feel when shifting and after a few years the weight breaks loose and rattles. Maybe the same thing is going on with the FRS/BRZ shifter knob? Should be easy to check: remove knob and shake it and see if it rattles.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

It's the TOB .....


humfrz

lol...




Seriously though, I have a working theory about the rattle. The shift lever is hollow. There's a little cable for the lockout that runs up through it. I think that might be the source but I just don't care about it.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

lol...




Seriously though, I have a working theory about the rattle. The shift lever is hollow. There's a little cable for the lockout that runs up through it. I think that might be the source but I just don't care about it.

Well, @Ultramaroon ...... maybe so ....... OR, maybe yours IS rattling ..... but, you just can't hear it .........

Like ........ if Ultramaroon is standing in his back yard, and a tree falls, and he doesn't hear it ...........?? (goes something like that)........


Saturday nap time for ol humfrz!

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Like ........ if Ultramaroon is standing in his back yard, and a tree falls on his head, and he doesn't feel it ...........?? (goes something like that)........

fify.

Nah, mine rattles like crazy. I bought a second one for a little project and that's how I found the cable thingy. I keep meaning to play with the lockout while it's rattling but it's probably for the best because, well, I'm kinda busy driving.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

.......

Nah, mine rattles like crazy. I bought a second one for a little project and that's how I found the cable thingy. I keep meaning to play with the lockout while it's rattling but it's probably for the best because, well, I'm kinda busy driving.

POLICE REPORT:

LEO: sir, let me see your driver’s license, if you still have one

Ultra: ya, I know I have one, it’s here somewhere

LEO: do you have the registration, or is this your son’s car?

LEO: please step out of the car and walk this white line; can’t do it I see …… have you been drinking?

Ultra: no

LEO: well, then were you texting; let me see your cell phone …… hmmm……never saw one that flips open

LEO: OK, then why were you swerving all over the road … ??

Ultra: I was fiddling with the reverse lockout

LEO: to see if it would go into reverse at 40 mph .. ??

LEO: I’m going to let you off with a warning this time, however, I suggest you stop by the Buick dealer and trade this thing in.





humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

hmmm……never saw one that flips open

lmao!

You made Mrs. Ultra's night.

[shadoken]

Originally Posted by slyphen

ok, so Subaru performed the TSB. swapped the entire shifter lever assembly. the rattle is still there, and its actually worse... they are calling in one of their engineers on monday to see what the hell is going on... meanwhile, anyone got any ideas?

I have the same problem , except mines a 2015 RS1.0 so I am not even eligible for the TSB since apparently mine already has the fix.

The sound has reduced over time and right now its not noticeable for me. The sound goes away if you just slightly adjust the shifter. The technicians said its nothing to worry about but idk , if the noise comes back again and its really loud I will go there and rant.