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Moe23 · 11-23-2015, 09:42 AM

So today as i was on my way to college, i noticed that my passenger side window wouldn't roll down due to freezing temperatures (live in canada) after i managed to get the window unfrozen, i realized i can only roll the window down not up. any suggestions? also the driver side switch for the passenger window doesn't work. doesn't allow me to roll the window up or down, but the passenger side switch can only roll it down. Any suggestions?

MuseChaser · 11-23-2015, 09:45 AM

There's a TSB on the windows for freezing. Contact a dealership. Are you still w/in the warranty period? If so, the fix is on them.

Barry

Moe23 · 11-23-2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser

There's a TSB on the windows for freezing. Contact a dealership. Are you still w/in the warranty period? If so, the fix is on them.

Barry

warranty ended 4k ago

Thanks for the help!

Tcoat · 11-23-2015, 09:53 AM

Dadhawk · 11-23-2015, 09:59 AM

One possibility is you have something "off the track" now inside the door. I haven't looked at the schematics for the mechanism but did have this happen with a GM vehicle once. Every time it rained the window would roll down, but not up. There was a small leak in one of the window gaskets, and it would make one of the plastic pulleys used for "up" slippery enough it couldn't turn the cable. You could roll it up about a half inch at the time by waiting a few seconds between attempts.

Could be worse. A buddy of mine just had to take his Challenger in for warranty work because the window wouldn't stop going up/down the 1 inch for the door open/close (similar to the 86). It completely drained his battery before he could get it serviced. I asked why he didn't just pull the fuse and he gave me that "well duh!" look because he didn't think of it.

wheelhaus · 11-23-2015, 10:02 AM

Cold temps won't prevent the windows from functioning, unless water freezes and causes ta jam. This is mostly happens when you just open a frozen door because the window will auto down/up a half inch. Also, I've read some people tearing their weatherstripping when water freezes to the back edge of the glass. If you clean/treat the rubber it should help prevent this. The instructions Tcoat posted above will help reset the motor/sensor.

One freezing workaround is to use a can of de-ice spray, I'm using one from Prestone. It evaporates quickly and won't harm anything. Before you open the door, spray some along the weatherstrip behind the glass, and along the wiper seal where the glass goes into the door. Wait a few seconds and the ice should just fall apart. I carry a backpack to and from work, so in the winter I just keep a can in the bag. If that's inconvenient, Throw a can in your trunk.

Moe23 · 11-23-2015, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

WORKED!!
you might of just saved my life, thanks a lot buddy!

Tcoat · 11-23-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23

warranty ended 4k ago

Thanks for the help!

I would still take it is and try to get the TSBs done. Since it is a cold weather issue there is no way you would have known until now so a good dealer should do them anyway. Worth a shot since I had them done and it worked well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1389643313

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1409711423

Moe23 · 11-23-2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I would still take it is and try to get the TSBs done. Since it is a cold weather issue there is no way you would have known until now so a good dealer should do them anyway. Worth a shot since I had them done and it worked well.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1389643313

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1409711423

well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

Tcoat · 11-23-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23

well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

I would. It will just keep happening and eventually the cut off may not catch things in time and you will actually end up with a damaged window mech.

MuseChaser · 11-23-2015, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23

well now that the window is working, you still think i should take it in?

Yes, yes, yes. They're aware of the TSB. I haven't had any problems yet that I've noticed, but I mentioned the known issue to the local dealership when I was there having something else fixed. The service manager had the TSB right there on a pile on his desk. He did say that it wasn't a recall, so technically they didn't need to do the work unless the customer had experienced the problem, but since it's already starting to freeze here he mentioned that it's entirely possible that I'd already had trouble but hadn't realized it. He ordered the parts and will schedule me for the repair when they come it, at no charge.

Sooo.. yes. Give it a shot. Hopefully, your guys are as helpful as mine have been so far.

Oh.. and it was Tcoat who brought this to my attention when I questioned the auto-rolldown/up window-cracking for cabin pressure relief design some days ago. Thanks again, T!

Barry

Tcoat · 11-23-2015, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Yes, yes, yes. They're aware of the TSB. I haven't had any problems yet that I've noticed, but I mentioned the known issue to the local dealership when I was there having something else fixed. The service manager had the TSB right there on a pile on his desk. He did say that it wasn't a recall, so technically they didn't need to do the work unless the customer had experienced the problem, but since it's already starting to freeze here he mentioned that it's entirely possible that I'd already had trouble but hadn't realized it. He ordered the parts and will schedule me for the repair when they come it, at no charge.

Sooo.. yes. Give it a shot. Hopefully, your guys are as helpful as mine have been so far.

Oh.. and it was Tcoat who brought this to my attention when I questioned the auto-rolldown/up window-cracking for cabin pressure relief design some days ago. Thanks again, T!

Barry

I am on a window TSB Crusade!

BlueSky · 11-23-2015, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe23

WORKED!!
you might of just saved my life, thanks a lot buddy!

@Tcoat saves the day again !

Tcoat · 11-23-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSky

@Tcoat saves the day again !

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MuseChaser Feeling like thinking.... Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: CNY Posts: 1,664 Thanks: 1,664 Thanked 2,433 Times in 1,064 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's a TSB on the windows for freezing. Contact a dealership. Are you still w/in the warranty period? If so, the fix is on them. Barry

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wheelhaus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2020 KTM Super Duke 1290R Location: Denver Posts: 1,788 Thanks: 714 Thanked 1,141 Times in 624 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Cold temps won't prevent the windows from functioning, unless water freezes and causes ta jam. This is mostly happens when you just open a frozen door because the window will auto down/up a half inch. Also, I've read some people tearing their weatherstripping when water freezes to the back edge of the glass. If you clean/treat the rubber it should help prevent this. The instructions Tcoat posted above will help reset the motor/sensor. One freezing workaround is to use a can of de-ice spray, I'm using one from Prestone. It evaporates quickly and won't harm anything. Before you open the door, spray some along the weatherstrip behind the glass, and along the wiper seal where the glass goes into the door. Wait a few seconds and the ice should just fall apart. I carry a backpack to and from work, so in the winter I just keep a can in the bag. If that's inconvenient, Throw a can in your trunk.

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