Aim DL SOLO Vs MXL

[philooo]

I am looking at the Aim solo vs MXL pista

I really don't see the advantages of spending extra money on the XML pista, as it really doesn't show much more than what I can see on the OEM cluster.

ok may be additional flash lights but really not that much value added.

The solo DL seems to show just as much information.

Is there something I am missing ? what would be the point to pick the Aim pista instead of the Solo ?

And secondly why would anybody want to remove the poem dash and put and Aim pista instead ? Looks to me like there there will be less information available...

Hope someone can chime in, as I see these Aim Pista in a lot of cars, but I just can't explain it when I see the rather short list of data aim can get from the car:

RPM
Vehicle speed
Pedal position sensor
Brake pressure
Steering angle
Brake switch
Engine Coolant
Temperature Intake air
temperature Manifold air
pressure Ambient Air
Temperature Barometric pressure
Lambda value
Throttle position
First Catalyser temperature Clutch switch
Front left wheel speed
Front right wheel speed
Rear left wheel speed
Rear right wheel speed
Oil temperature
Engaged gear

it can't even show error codes... pretty lame

[CSG Mike]

If you need to ask, you definitely don't need the MXL. It's a fully programmable dash that can display whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want.

[philooo]

I'd be curious to see what could be usefull.
Ok warnings for oil temp and water temp would be nice. doesn't the solo DL does that already ?

As for displaying whatever you want when you want, the list of data available is rather limited and most of it is useless to the driver.

I mean wheel speed, or pedal sensor, brake switch, ambient air... fun for video overlay but once you are behind the wheel I don't see the point of these data.

please enlight me

[Streetthrowback]

ran aim mxl in my lotus, loved it, if you have any questions about the product, why not call aim themselves

[puma]

MXL you can add extra sensors which you can't with the DL.

You get a shift light, you can add a wideband and show it on the display along with oil pressure, oil temp, water temp, fuel pressure, etc.

For example on our race car we wanted to add the oil pressure and the temperature of the supercharger, all we had to do was to buy sensors and plug them on the dash an we can see them along with the rest of the data.

We are also going to use different temp sensor and pressure sensor to develop our aero.

It is probably not usefull on a street car or maybe a little overkill. It was especially helpfull on cars which couldn't communicate or have many sensors logged on the OEM ECU but the FRS is not one of them.

[EarlQHan]

Originally Posted by philooo

I'd be curious to see what could be usefull.
Ok warnings for oil temp and water temp would be nice. doesn't the solo DL does that already ?

As for displaying whatever you want when you want, the list of data available is rather limited and most of it is useless to the driver.

I mean wheel speed, or pedal sensor, brake switch, ambient air... fun for video overlay but once you are behind the wheel I don't see the point of these data.

please enlight me

Pedal sensors shows braking/throttle consistency, if you're braking early or applying throttle late
Wheel speed shows where you're getting wheel spin/locking up, you can also use it to calculate vehicle speed
Add a GPS signal and you get a track map and can learn which corners you're doing well or poorly
Steering wheel sensor, you know if you're turning in too early or late, whether you're consistent with the line, if you're under/over steering
Put these things together and you can teach yourself to be a better, more consistent driver if you're willing to read the data

Ambient air will probably never be necessary for an amateur driver except for setting tire pressure

These systems aren't necessary when you're in the car, it's for when you do driver debriefs. Data loggers aren't meant for driver displays, it just has the added benefit of doing so. It's meant for keeping track of vehicle and driver performance. If you're not sure what the additional channels could be used for, you most likely don't need it. Definitely don't get the more expensive system if you just want a replacement gauge cluster, do get it if you want to grow into the system, and use the features for driver and vehicle improvement

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by philooo

I'd be curious to see what could be usefull.
Ok warnings for oil temp and water temp would be nice. doesn't the solo DL does that already ?

As for displaying whatever you want when you want, the list of data available is rather limited and most of it is useless to the driver.

I mean wheel speed, or pedal sensor, brake switch, ambient air... fun for video overlay but once you are behind the wheel I don't see the point of these data.

please enlight me

The solo DL does not. It can display them, but it will not give you warnings.

The Point of the MXL is to minimize the data displayed to the driver to reduce the things the driver has to watch out for. Wheel speeds can be used to display *only* when there is a disparity. Or, temps displayed only when they're getting high. Or AFR when it's out of an acceptable range. There are a ton of ways to set up the display.

Most importantly, you can add external sensors to the MXL. Don't let the list of OBD2 readings fool you into thinking that's all the unit can do. It can display any information any external sensor provides, given that it's set up to do so.

This is a great example of why "race" parts aren't necessarily better in all cases.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

This is a great example of why "race" parts aren't necessarily better in all cases.

Exactly.

- Andrew

[AZP Installs]

The MXL2 is the current model of MXL being sold. The advantages as others have said is that the MXL2 can be programmed for the driver information to be displayed for them.

For instance our driver of our Spec86 WTW car doesn't care about any of the gauges or sensors because he is focused on RACING, however the MXL2 can be programmed to flash the entire dash if one of those sensors goes outside the range which is safe. So if he see's the thing flashing at him, he can then see what the issue is. Low oil pressure, Oil Temps, coolant temps, etc.

For a street driven car the MXL2 IMO is overkill. If your car is a mixed use care like my Project BRZ the AIM Solo DL is a more cost effective part IMO.

As a side note we are also an AIM dealer and offer discounts to NASA and FT86 Club members so when you are ready shoot us an e-mail.

sales@azpinstalls.com

-mike

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

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This is a great example of why "race" parts aren't necessarily better in all cases.

+1