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TnRen41 · 03-03-2015, 08:06 AM

Ok guys got another probably easily answerable question for you so hope you can help.

To preface this I will say I just did *MY* 1st oil change on this car I'm a little over 10000 miles. Before the stupid comments come, it had 5000 is on it when I got it and the dealer did the oil before I drove it off the lot.

Anyways I was on my way home from work and I finally heard it, yep you know what I mean those stupid crickets. So my question is I have read this is supposed to be covered by warranty right? So where do I look to see if my car has been fixed or needs to be fixed. And does the fact that I'm not the original owner void the warranty (I got it from carmax)

If I'm totally wrong about this please let me know, BC I know it's not a big deal and it's a part of owning this car but it is kind of frustrating that it wasn't happening till after I changed the oil. Any help you guys can give I appreciate so thanks in advance.

I know there's at least 100 other threads on this already so forgive me for not wasting the next 3 weeks of my life reading however many 1000s of posts on it lol

Jesse36m3 · 03-03-2015, 08:08 AM

It's not going to harm your car. You can try to get it replaced under warranty, but until there is a legitimate fix, the problem will come right back. Don't even waste your time.

BlackMonarch · 03-03-2015, 08:08 AM

No correlation that I've heard of\seen between oil changes and the HPFP cricket issue.

Loetke · 03-03-2015, 08:45 AM

As has been said many times before, use ethanol free gasoline and the problem will go away. Yes it's more expensive. Up to you to decide if the extra $10 when filling up is worth it to get rid of the sound.

03-03-2015, 09:02 AM

I don't know why this bothers so many people. My 2015 in the first couple months got the crickets in under 2000 kilometres. I wasn't even phased once I found out it was normal.

It's not worth the time replacing the fps by the dealer since as was mentioned before people have had them come back right after replacement.

yomny · 03-03-2015, 09:17 AM

It'll ruin your life..(the crickets & trying to fix them) just let it go and get used to them. I say this in a positive way, honestly.. There's really no way to avoid this and unless you want to spend your life risking the dealership damaging something else while trying to fix this, just ignore them.

Tcoat · 03-03-2015, 09:32 AM

I will summarize the 10,000+ posts on this for you (I have read them all I am sure)!

Use no ethanol fuel - Works for some but not others (this is what seems to work for me)
Tune for E85 - Many people swear by this but the fuel needs to be available.
Add any number of different oils - Seems to work for some but also doesn't seem to be a permanent fix and they come back
Get the fuel pump changed - Every month or so somebody posts that there is a "new" pump out. Very rare (if ever) does it change anything for long. Some guys are on 5 or 6 changes and still have issues. Waste of time and money (we all pay eventually it isn't "free". However... some day they may actually make a change that works but since so many people have cried wolf we may be a while before we believe it.
Move to where it is cold all the time - There is a certain correlation between temperature and crickets. They do not like the cold.
Wait them out - Many say they eventually go away.
Learn to live with them - They are not the end of the world and actualy you eventually just don't notice until they are gone.
Bring in a voodoo witch doctor/priest to do exorcism - As good a chance of working as any!

mad_sb · 03-03-2015, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loetke

As has been said many times before, use ethanol free gasoline and the problem will go away. Yes it's more expensive. Up to you to decide if the extra $10 when filling up is worth it to get rid of the sound.

Propel E85 makes mine go away, pump gas brings them right back. It has more to do with he additive package the particular brand uses than anything else.

mad_sb · 03-03-2015, 09:39 AM

[quote=Tcoat;2154425]I will summarize the 10,000+ posts on this for you (I have read them all I am sure)!

Use no ethanol fuel - Works for some but not others (this is what seems to work for me)
Add any number of different oils - Seems to work for some but also doesn't seem to be a permanent fix and they come back
Get the fuel pump changed - Every month or so somebody posts that there is a "new" pump out. Very rare (if ever) does it change anything for long. Some guys are on 5 or 6 changes and still have issues. Waste of time and money (we all pay eventually it isn't "free". However... some day they may actually make a change that works but since so many people have cried wolf we may be a while before we believe it.
Move to where it is cold all the time - There is a certain correlation between temperature and crickets. They do not like the cold.
Wait them out - Many say they eventually go away.
Learn to live with them - They are not the end of the world and actualy you eventually just don't notice until they are gone.
Bring in a voodoo witch doctor/priest to do exorcism - As good a chance of working as any!

...

Excellent summary! And I fall into the what works for you is the opposite for me category

Tcoat · 03-03-2015, 09:41 AM

[quote=mad_sb;2154428]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Excellent summary! And I fall into the what works for you is the opposite for me category

I forgot the E85 switch! Added to the list.

x1UP · 03-03-2015, 10:05 AM

Please, there is no point in changing the fuel pumps to get rid of the crickets. Crickets live on forever in our cars.

Timmy_Jones · 03-03-2015, 10:08 AM

Put a catback on mine at like 600 miles, haven't heard crickets since and I have almost 6k now.

Bergen23 · 03-03-2015, 10:10 AM

I do not have them. Suck it.

MightyMeeple · 03-03-2015, 10:47 AM

Hey OP, I'm in NC too...grew up in the foothills now reside in the triangle. Congrats on putting 1K on your FR-S!

My car just hit the 2 year mark (I bought it new) and if I recall, I didn't hear crickets until the first warmer months of the Spring that first year. Typically I only hear them during warmer times...and I do think that switching up fuel makes a difference...there is a certain BP station that I try use most often and I get the best results.

But to be honest, when they are there I barely notice anymore. It's because of this that I have not taken the car into dealer for this issue and don't plan to do so.

03-03-2015, 08:06 AM	#1
TnRen41 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 14' Asphalt FR-S MT Location: Backwoods NC Posts: 55 Thanks: 37 Thanked 40 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It has happened. Ok guys got another probably easily answerable question for you so hope you can help. To preface this I will say I just did MY 1st oil change on this car I'm a little over 10000 miles. Before the stupid comments come, it had 5000 is on it when I got it and the dealer did the oil before I drove it off the lot. Anyways I was on my way home from work and I finally heard it, yep you know what I mean those stupid crickets. So my question is I have read this is supposed to be covered by warranty right? So where do I look to see if my car has been fixed or needs to be fixed. And does the fact that I'm not the original owner void the warranty (I got it from carmax) If I'm totally wrong about this please let me know, BC I know it's not a big deal and it's a part of owning this car but it is kind of frustrating that it wasn't happening till after I changed the oil. Any help you guys can give I appreciate so thanks in advance. I know there's at least 100 other threads on this already so forgive me for not wasting the next 3 weeks of my life reading however many 1000s of posts on it lol __________________ Failure is not an option.

03-03-2015, 09:17 AM	#6
yomny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: MIA Posts: 1,545 Thanks: 557 Thanked 469 Times in 340 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	It'll ruin your life..(the crickets & trying to fix them) just let it go and get used to them. I say this in a positive way, honestly.. There's really no way to avoid this and unless you want to spend your life risking the dealership damaging something else while trying to fix this, just ignore them. __________________ GTX2867R, moto-tuned , tomei op , motiv fp , Invidia Q300 ti , Rota titan 17x9 +42 , nt555 255/40 , ST coilovers w/cascam , Hotchkis sways

03-03-2015, 09:32 AM	#7
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,294 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	I will summarize the 10,000+ posts on this for you (I have read them all I am sure)! Use no ethanol fuel - Works for some but not others (this is what seems to work for me) Tune for E85 - Many people swear by this but the fuel needs to be available. Add any number of different oils - Seems to work for some but also doesn't seem to be a permanent fix and they come back Get the fuel pump changed - Every month or so somebody posts that there is a "new" pump out. Very rare (if ever) does it change anything for long. Some guys are on 5 or 6 changes and still have issues. Waste of time and money (we all pay eventually it isn't "free". However... some day they may actually make a change that works but since so many people have cried wolf we may be a while before we believe it. Move to where it is cold all the time - There is a certain correlation between temperature and crickets. They do not like the cold. Wait them out - Many say they eventually go away. Learn to live with them - They are not the end of the world and actualy you eventually just don't notice until they are gone. Bring in a voodoo witch doctor/priest to do exorcism - As good a chance of working as any! __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

03-03-2015, 09:39 AM	#9
mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 982 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	[quote=Tcoat;2154425]I will summarize the 10,000+ posts on this for you (I have read them all I am sure)! Use no ethanol fuel - Works for some but not others (this is what seems to work for me) Add any number of different oils - Seems to work for some but also doesn't seem to be a permanent fix and they come back Get the fuel pump changed - Every month or so somebody posts that there is a "new" pump out. Very rare (if ever) does it change anything for long. Some guys are on 5 or 6 changes and still have issues. Waste of time and money (we all pay eventually it isn't "free". However... some day they may actually make a change that works but since so many people have cried wolf we may be a while before we believe it. Move to where it is cold all the time - There is a certain correlation between temperature and crickets. They do not like the cold. Wait them out - Many say they eventually go away. Learn to live with them - They are not the end of the world and actualy you eventually just don't notice until they are gone. Bring in a voodoo witch doctor/priest to do exorcism - As good a chance of working as any! ... Excellent summary! And I fall into the what works for you is the opposite for me category __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

03-03-2015, 10:05 AM	#11
x1UP One & Done (AOZORA) Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: '15 Series.Blue BRZ (WRB) Location: New York City Posts: 932 Thanks: 340 Thanked 217 Times in 160 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Please, there is no point in changing the fuel pumps to get rid of the crickets. Crickets live on forever in our cars. __________________ "I have the need....the need for speed! - Maverick (Top Gun)

03-03-2015, 08:08 AM	#2
Jesse36m3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: JDL Turbo BRZ Location: EG, RI Posts: 450 Thanks: 46 Thanked 305 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	It's not going to harm your car. You can try to get it replaced under warranty, but until there is a legitimate fix, the problem will come right back. Don't even waste your time.

03-03-2015, 08:08 AM	#3
BlackMonarch Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: Red BRZ Location: Kansas Posts: 240 Thanks: 42 Thanked 174 Times in 89 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No correlation that I've heard of\seen between oil changes and the HPFP cricket issue.

03-03-2015, 08:45 AM	#4
Loetke Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Release 1.0 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 60 Thanks: 83 Thanked 45 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As has been said many times before, use ethanol free gasoline and the problem will go away. Yes it's more expensive. Up to you to decide if the extra $10 when filling up is worth it to get rid of the sound.

03-03-2015, 09:02 AM	#5
ButeraFRS Guest Posts: n/a Mentioned: Post(s) Tagged: Thread(s)	I don't know why this bothers so many people. My 2015 in the first couple months got the crickets in under 2000 kilometres. I wasn't even phased once I found out it was normal. It's not worth the time replacing the fps by the dealer since as was mentioned before people have had them come back right after replacement.

03-03-2015, 10:08 AM	#12
Timmy_Jones Spun Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 17' Focus RS Location: New England Posts: 1,179 Thanks: 396 Thanked 400 Times in 273 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Put a catback on mine at like 600 miles, haven't heard crickets since and I have almost 6k now.

03-03-2015, 10:10 AM	#13
Bergen23 Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: '15 Halo FR-S Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,317 Thanks: 922 Thanked 950 Times in 492 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I do not have them. Suck it.

03-03-2015, 10:47 AM	#14
MightyMeeple Slower than Fast Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Research Triangle Park, NC Posts: 431 Thanks: 290 Thanked 220 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey OP, I'm in NC too...grew up in the foothills now reside in the triangle. Congrats on putting 1K on your FR-S! My car just hit the 2 year mark (I bought it new) and if I recall, I didn't hear crickets until the first warmer months of the Spring that first year. Typically I only hear them during warmer times...and I do think that switching up fuel makes a difference...there is a certain BP station that I try use most often and I get the best results. But to be honest, when they are there I barely notice anymore. It's because of this that I have not taken the car into dealer for this issue and don't plan to do so. __________________ *Build Thread*

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