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2016 Camaro SS · 01-12-2015, 08:09 AM

Anyone else streaming this from work?

What are you looking forward to? I'm really hoping GM unveils the new Camaro, but its doubtful. They've kept their lips sealed really tight in comparison to Ford dropping the GT350 and soon the GT500.

Would also like to see Toyota unveil the 2016 Corolla, but I have a feeling the Tacoma and the spotlight stealer, FT-1, will be their focus.

Edit: Apparently I already missed Chevrolet's debut. Bolt? Not interested.

Dadhawk · 01-12-2015, 08:42 AM

Definitely would have liked to have seen the 2016 Camaro.

Chevy should have stuck to the Volt style drivetrain for the Bolt. Then I would have been interested in it as a car for younger family members, but of course not at $30K. That would be used market all the way. I'm not going to buy a kid some car where I'm going to be constantly worrying about them running out of juice.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 01-12-2015, 09:45 AM

Since when is GM making BMW i3s...
The new Ford GT looks amazeballs, styling by Lamborghini almost.
GT350R is still too heavy from the sounds of things.
New Titan front end looks terrible and can only tow 12000lbs even with a Cummins V8?
Vehicle names are getting even worse, AMG GLE63S coupe??? F-Pace? Bolt?

Tcoat · 01-12-2015, 09:50 AM

Slipping across the river Friday to check the show out in person.
Anybody else going?

Dadhawk · 01-12-2015, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

Since when is GM making BMW i3s...
The new Ford GT looks amazeballs, styling by Lamborghini almost.
GT350R is still too heavy from the sounds of things.
New Titan front end looks terrible and can only tow 12000lbs even with a Cummins V8?
Vehicle names are getting even worse, AMG GLE63S coupe??? F-Pace? Bolt?

The "Bolt" name I get, kinda. Never have liked number names though like the AMG.

Definitely like the look of the GT, even if it is an awful color for a sports car.

2016 Camaro SS · 01-12-2015, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The "Bolt" name I get, kinda. Never have liked number names though like the AMG.

Definitely like the look of the GT, even if it is an awful color for a sports car.

Yeah, that is a slick looking car I won't be able to afford.

Noble713 · 01-12-2015, 01:16 PM

Surprised and VERY impressed by the new Ford GT....except the powerplant. How do you stick a FPC V8 in the Mustang and then put a TT V6 in your new Halo car?!

strat61caster · 01-12-2015, 01:43 PM

Ford wins for enthusiasts:

A. GT
B. GT350
i. 500+ hp V8
ii. Carbon Fiber Wheels
iii. magnetic suspension
iv. 150 lbs. lighter than the last GT350

Ford 2015: "Hahaha you call that a performance car?"

Edit: @Noble713 I'll take a twin-turbo 600+ horsepower likely ridiculously torquey for the displacement and surprisingly decent fuel economy V6 over yet another NA V8 any day. Progress yo, if it weren't for the fueling limits in F1 those V6's would likely be the most powerful engines since the last turbo era.

tahdizzle · 01-12-2015, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noble713

Surprised and VERY impressed by the new Ford GT....except the powerplant. How do you stick a FPC V8 in the Mustang and then put a TT V6 in your new Halo car?!

Weight, fuel economy, emissions... yah know; Technical stuff.

OICU812 · 01-12-2015, 09:42 PM

Pissed off Toyota is still pumping the pooch and couldn't at least give production date for the FT-1.

mav1178 · 01-13-2015, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noble713

Surprised and VERY impressed by the new Ford GT....except the powerplant. How do you stick a FPC V8 in the Mustang and then put a TT V6 in your new Halo car?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Edit: @Noble713 I'll take a twin-turbo 600+ horsepower likely ridiculously torquey for the displacement and surprisingly decent fuel economy V6 over yet another NA V8 any day. Progress yo, if it weren't for the fueling limits in F1 those V6's would likely be the most powerful engines since the last turbo era.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Weight, fuel economy, emissions... yah know; Technical stuff.

The real answer: Le Mans GTE.

http://www.24h-lemans.com/wpphpFichi...ons-lm-gte.pdf

Suggest anyone interested in the Ford GT engine configuration to read from page 13 onward.

The GT was built with Le Mans in mind, nothing else. That it happens to be a decent street car is a side benefit.

-alex

mav1178 · 01-13-2015, 04:19 AM

More reading: http://www.motorsport.com/automotive...not-disappoint

Noble713 · 01-13-2015, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Weight, fuel economy, emissions... yah know; Technical stuff.

Halo cars are often about emotion as much as technicality.

Similarly, my previous Mitsubishis put down the same-ish power figures with 4 cylinders (4G63 and 4B11) as my current Toyotas do with 6....but I sure as hell know which is more pleasurable to drive: the aural symphony of the 1JZ is unmatched.

I'll accept the "We did it for Le Mans" answer though.

2016 Camaro SS · 01-13-2015, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

Pissed off Toyota is still pumping the pooch and couldn't at least give production date for the FT-1.

Yeah, it was all about the Tacoma yesterday. Pretty awesome truck though. My roommate had one in college and it got us around and moved perfectly. I think the redesign looks pretty good. My fiance would love one since she's a truck girl.

I'm waiting to hear about the 2016 Corolla and the FT-1 this year. I just don't know when Toyota is going to spill the beans. Maybe Chicago?

01-12-2015, 08:09 AM	#1
2016 Camaro SS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Fast Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 790 Thanks: 114 Thanked 408 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	North American International Auto Show Anyone else streaming this from work? What are you looking forward to? I'm really hoping GM unveils the new Camaro, but its doubtful. They've kept their lips sealed really tight in comparison to Ford dropping the GT350 and soon the GT500. Would also like to see Toyota unveil the 2016 Corolla, but I have a feeling the Tacoma and the spotlight stealer, FT-1, will be their focus. Edit: Apparently I already missed Chevrolet's debut. Bolt? Not interested. Last edited by 2016 Camaro SS; 01-12-2015 at 08:31 AM.

01-12-2015, 08:42 AM	#2
Dadhawk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 20,118 Thanks: 39,698 Thanked 25,475 Times in 11,612 Posts Mentioned: 187 Post(s)	Definitely would have liked to have seen the 2016 Camaro. Chevy should have stuck to the Volt style drivetrain for the Bolt. Then I would have been interested in it as a car for younger family members, but of course not at $30K. That would be used market all the way. I'm not going to buy a kid some car where I'm going to be constantly worrying about them running out of juice. __________________ Olivia 05/03/2012 - 01/06/2024. 231,146 glorious miles. Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk". Last edited by Dadhawk; 01-12-2015 at 08:55 AM.

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Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,838 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s)	Slipping across the river Friday to check the show out in person. Anybody else going? __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

01-12-2015, 01:16 PM	#7
Noble713 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: MkIV Supra & Evo X Location: Okinawa Posts: 126 Thanks: 42 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Surprised and VERY impressed by the new Ford GT....except the powerplant. How do you stick a FPC V8 in the Mustang and then put a TT V6 in your new Halo car?! __________________ 1994 Toyota MkIV Supra (project car) 2007 JDM Mitsubishi Exo X GSR-SST (Daily driver)

01-12-2015, 01:43 PM	#8
strat61caster - Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: '13 FRS - STX Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 10,384 Thanks: 13,790 Thanked 9,502 Times in 5,013 Posts Mentioned: 94 Post(s)	Ford wins for enthusiasts: A. GT B. GT350 i. 500+ hp V8 ii. Carbon Fiber Wheels iii. magnetic suspension iv. 150 lbs. lighter than the last GT350 Ford 2015: "Hahaha you call that a performance car?" Edit: @Noble713 I'll take a twin-turbo 600+ horsepower likely ridiculously torquey for the displacement and surprisingly decent fuel economy V6 over yet another NA V8 any day. Progress yo, if it weren't for the fueling limits in F1 those V6's would likely be the most powerful engines since the last turbo era. Last edited by strat61caster; 01-12-2015 at 02:13 PM.

01-12-2015, 09:45 AM	#3
BRZZZZZZZZZZ Car Nut Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BMW 335d, Toyota Echo RS, FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 1,557 Thanks: 368 Thanked 603 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s)	Since when is GM making BMW i3s... The new Ford GT looks amazeballs, styling by Lamborghini almost. GT350R is still too heavy from the sounds of things. New Titan front end looks terrible and can only tow 12000lbs even with a Cummins V8? Vehicle names are getting even worse, AMG GLE63S coupe??? F-Pace? Bolt?

01-13-2015, 04:19 AM	#12
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s)	More reading: http://www.motorsport.com/automotive...not-disappoint

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