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Old 12-14-2014, 03:05 AM   #1
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Is FRS/BRZ/GT86 a first new purchase? Will you buy brand new again?

My 2013 Scion FRS is my first new car purchase.

Would you do it again?

Me:

No way! I will NEVER EVER do it again lol. EVER!

Pretty much locked myself into a bigger losing deal for the next 3.5 years (purchased in July 13 w/ 60 month term). You live and you learn I guess. I'm still happy with this car though. In fact, I feel proud that I have the FRS as my first brand new car purchase instead of some boring wheel drive Toyota Matrix or whatever. So definitely, I feel like I chose a good car to buy new. Being the one and only owner is priceless. Especially when it's a car like an FRS being thrashed and trashed in every video you see, buying a used one you just "never know". So I'm glad that I have mine brand new.

What I'm not so glad about is the plummeting value! So from here on out, I'm buying "excellent condition" used. The depreciation value is too crazy when buying new. For me, 2-4 year old cars with 1-2 owners is the best way to go. An example, we recently got my wife a car as she wanted to upgrade from her 2000 Toyota Echo. She wanted a Lexus HS250h. Brand new in 2010 it would've been close to $45k all in. We found her car for $21k all in.

From a car dealer, they told me that FRS/BRZ auction around $17-18k these days. I recently read a thread about somebody taking their car in to see what they could get on a trade. $14,900. LOL.

I paid $32k out the door (being in Canada we get raped on tax) for a base FRS. Something like 18 months now later, my car is worth only half its value. It's not a surprise though. It's depreciation. But overall, I'm am happy that I went into this knowing the FRS was going to be a keeper. So really, no depreciation for me. But it still does hurt to know that your car is worth crap only after a short while lol.

What I definitely can't get my head around is how people purchase a brand new car, then not long after they either sell or trade it eating the depreciation and taxes along with it. People must have a lot of money to burn I suppose. Especially for the guys who bought this car brand new, modded the wheels off of it, then are selling not long after...? Must be pretty well off then I guess. I grew up poor. Eating that kind of a loss would not hurt me financially these days, but it would definitely kill me psychologically.

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Old 12-14-2014, 12:47 PM   #2
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I don't buy cars with the intent to get rid of them.
I don't trust other people (generally speaking) after seeing how the average person takes care of their vehicle.


I almost always buy new and that will always be my preferred choice.


If you know how to work a car deal then you can buy new and not be upside down in it in 2 years or even less.
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Old 12-14-2014, 12:55 PM   #3
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I always by new and generally keep the car for 10 years or so.
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I stopped buying new a while back. Always used now and can't see myself going back unless I hit the lotto or something. Even then would probably still buy used unless it was like some new model I had to have and there were no used ones available.

I don't tend to keep cars that long. Longest I have had any car so far is like 3 years. Typically I buy them CPO or with some factory warranty left, although not always.

Being the first guy to fart in that new car smell is nice, but not for a couple thousand bucks. Actually the FRS is the newest car I have purchased recently. My other cars have been at least 4+ years old when I get them. The FRS still smelled new when I got it.
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Old 12-14-2014, 01:33 PM   #5
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I will always buy my car brand new. There's just too much risk when you buy used. The car may look good on paper, but you don't know exactly how the previous owner treated the car.

I treat my car with the utmost care as to keep it in great condition, other people may not have the same level of respect for their vehicles as I do, and that is just something I'm not willing to risk.
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Who deleted the poll? And all the posts?...???
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For performance cars I would definitely buy new just because you won't know how the previous owners take care of their cars. Cars like the FRS/brz , evo, wrx/sti
But for cars that I want but not in production I would first find a very good mechanic that know the car I want to purchase then take my time to find 1 in very good condition. Something like the rx7-rx8, mr2 s2000

I got my 13 for a great deal when I was working in reno Ca for $27k after taxes , fees , registration and very low interest rate
I do intend to keep this for a very long time 5+ years that's the main reason I wanted it new
If you ask me would I do it all over again for a car like this " YES "

My brother bought his ap2 05 s2000 new and he still have til this day with no major flaws/repairs mostly maintenance and still running like new
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Who deleted the poll? And all the posts?...???
Ya really, what happened!?


It is still here this is a duplicate thread.


Probably wasting my breath but...


NOBODY POST HERE
Let this one die and post on the original with the poll please!
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Being the first guy to fart in that new car smell is nice, but not for a couple thousand bucks. Actually the FRS is the newest car I have purchased recently. My other cars have been at least 4+ years old when I get them. The FRS still smelled new when I got it.
You can go to dealership and fart inside their showroom car and watch from distance the next person going inside the car innocently thinking to smell that nice leather smell while pretending to want to buy the car but then Boom!

Note: for enhanced effect eat eggs in the morning
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You can go to dealership and fart inside their showroom car and watch from distance the next person going inside the car innocently thinking to smell that nice leather smell while pretending to want to buy the car but then Boom!

Note: for enhanced effect eat eggs in the morning
Ok this is too tempting not to try. Will post youtube of event when I'm done.
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It is still here this is a duplicate thread.


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Let this one die and post on the original with the poll please!
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Ok this is too tempting not to try. Will post youtube of event when I'm done.
Please post it here too.
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hahahaha this was my first new purchase and I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN, you get pretty fucked on trade in, and the used prices for luxury cars with QUALITY builds is equal to if not less than the price of a brand new FRS
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I bought new, with no regrets. When I bought (end of 13), the prices for a used one with ~10k miles were only about 2k under what I could get an FRS at. I said screw it, took the low APR and got a new one.

I put about 6-7k miles a year on my car though, so the depreciation doesn't hit me as hard.

Also, if you're worried at depreciation look at a 4 runner, FJ, Taco, or Tundra. Those things have amazing resale values. My FJ is 6 years old, has 75k miles and is still worth over half what I bought it for. (27k OTD, worth maybe 16 or 17 now). But I recall seeing an article that said the FJ Cruiser has the highest resale of any car right now.

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