Supercharged GT86

[Billy2224]

Hey guys, just wondering how easy will it be to supercharge the 86.
Years down the track after the warranty has expired I came into the consideration of supercharging it. Having a Cooper S in the family which just left last year (sadly ) the low end power and extra kick with a supercharger is loads of fun.

How will the engine be able to handle it, how much boost and power gain do you guys reckon I would be able to get without even coming close to any engine damage?

Cheers, looking forward to the responses

[ESBjiujitsu]

tons of SC threads already out there......


HKS already has an SC option in testing..... Toyota has a port option listed for an SC in the future and many other companies are working on SC kits. There is also a twin charged ft86 out there!

Just a matter of time before we start to see the kits released! I myself happen to be very excited about the option of a SC.... especially a centrifugal.

[Tradewind]

Originally Posted by ESBjiujitsu

tons of SC threads already out there......


HKS already has an SC option in testing..... Toyota has a port option listed for an SC in the future and many other companies are working on SC kits. There is also a twin charged ft86 out there!

Just a matter of time before we start to see the kits released! I myself happen to be very excited about the option of a SC.... especially a centrifugal.

How much money is your HKS system for the 86/BRZ?

I find myself wondering if a more powerful version of the car will be released in the next 12 months and the early buyers are caught with the low power model ......

Opinions

[Nardi330]

certainly a little bit more would be good but i don't need 50kw more.

if i can have another 10-20 awkw then i'm happy. so i hope a tune + intake/exhaust mods would achieve this.

[Staticfrost]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

certainly a little bit more would be good but i don't need 50kw more.

if i can have another 10-20 awkw then i'm happy. so i hope a tune + intake/exhaust mods would achieve this.

Not interested in power gains I am looking for tq gains :S.

Yes just like Subaru did to the WRX first was a weak, 2nd got better 3rd = the best!!! :S.

[Tradewind]

Static

Its always a torque gain in the first instance, the power gain is simply RPM x torque. No torque = no hp

[kharn83]

Originally Posted by Billy2224

Hey guys, just wondering how easy will it be to supercharge the 86.
Years down the track after the warranty has expired I came into the consideration of supercharging it. Having a Cooper S in the family which just left last year (sadly ) the low end power and extra kick with a supercharger is loads of fun.

How will the engine be able to handle it, how much boost and power gain do you guys reckon I would be able to get without even coming close to any engine damage?

Cheers, looking forward to the responses

Hi Billy,

As stated in the threads there will certainly be some after market SCs developed for the 86, and from my understanding supercharger kits are usually fairly reliable as compared to turbo chargers, less things to go wrong, and you're not having to meddle with hot manifold exhaust pipes etc, so that is definitley a plus.

The other thing to definitely consider is the ADR rules and EPA regulations applicable to your state and territory. Like you I was seriously considering supercharging the vehicle, but then I remembered my experience with my modified s15 which I used to own, and the number of times I got done by EPA and the ADR rules made me remember why i sold it.

I.e. In victoria at least, rules would pretty much invalidate the use of a non factory supercharger, unless the kit is ADR approved, which I think not many kits are. If you are pulled over by a cop (for a random inspection which they like to do for japanese imports) , they'll issue you with a defect / EPA notice and you'll have to spend time and money to remove the parts, and revert to stock.

When I had my s15, i got randomly pulled over 3 times, and each time i had to take off all my mods, and put stock back on.. a real pain in the a$$ if u know what i mean.

some states arent as stringent as victoria, but just make sure you figure out what is the norm otherwise it will cost u a lot!

Cheers
Robert

[kharn83]

oh the other thing that does help, is if you can keep your car looking totally stock, i.e. stok rims, stock looking exhaust (especially), then the cops usually wont know you've modified your car, as the first thing someone does when they modify is the exhaust, and they'll pull you over if they see something like that, and do an inspection.

i found after i swapped my cannon muffler to a stock looking twin tip muffler exhaust, got pulled over far less. lol. but even then, u may still get pulled over and have to remove the entire super charger kit.

That said, if someone does release an ADR approved kit, I know what will be on my car after it finishes warranty!

[Tradewind]

Is the warranty 3 years/75 000km? I havent checked .........

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Tradewind

Is the warranty 3 years/75 000km? I havent checked .........

3yrs/100,000km

https://www.toyota.com.au/owners/war...arrantyarranty

[davey90]

Remember, you get power but you also add on weight by adding supercharger (obviously...). But how much more will it add on and is the supercharger capable of pulling that extra weight + the weight of the car itself? Just thought i'll add that.


hmm....

[Billy2224]

Originally Posted by kharn83

Hi Billy,

As stated in the threads there will certainly be some after market SCs developed for the 86, and from my understanding supercharger kits are usually fairly reliable as compared to turbo chargers, less things to go wrong, and you're not having to meddle with hot manifold exhaust pipes etc, so that is definitley a plus.

The other thing to definitely consider is the ADR rules and EPA regulations applicable to your state and territory. Like you I was seriously considering supercharging the vehicle, but then I remembered my experience with my modified s15 which I used to own, and the number of times I got done by EPA and the ADR rules made me remember why i sold it.

I.e. In victoria at least, rules would pretty much invalidate the use of a non factory supercharger, unless the kit is ADR approved, which I think not many kits are. If you are pulled over by a cop (for a random inspection which they like to do for japanese imports) , they'll issue you with a defect / EPA notice and you'll have to spend time and money to remove the parts, and revert to stock.

When I had my s15, i got randomly pulled over 3 times, and each time i had to take off all my mods, and put stock back on.. a real pain in the a$$ if u know what i mean.

some states arent as stringent as victoria, but just make sure you figure out what is the norm otherwise it will cost u a lot!

Cheers
Robert

Yea I've never really heard of that here in NSW, I could be wrong and last thing I would want is to be defected. I certainly hope not, thanks for heads up with all the info anyway mate

[Billy2224]

Originally Posted by davey90

Remember, you get power but you also add on weight by adding supercharger (obviously...). But how much more will it add on and is the supercharger capable of pulling that extra weight + the weight of the car itself? Just thought i'll add that.


hmm....

I'm sure there will be many dedicated supercharger kits that would do the job, otherwise no point in it right?

[ESBjiujitsu]

oh im sure the supercharger kits made available will make plenty of power to actual weight added. I believe its every 100 lbs or so can equal up to a .1 of a second in a straight line. So I highly doubt the weight of the system will effect the power outcome that much. Maybe with a air to water ic and a turbo setup because of all the piping and the fluid weight but a centrifugal SC setup is fairly low weight in terms of FI options.