So... is it sluggish? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Surge101 · 06-02-2012, 11:51 PM

The primary concern for me, and I am sure countless others when the 200HP was announced, is will the car feel sluggish and/or underpowered. Now that some of you have your mits on them, let's answer that question.

quik1987 · 06-02-2012, 11:55 PM

Why not test drive and see for yourself?

Surge101 · 06-02-2012, 11:58 PM

Oh, i'm still waiting for them to arrive here. I do have an appointment to test drive the FRS on monday though.

Chee-Hu · 06-03-2012, 12:00 AM

I guess it depends on what you intend to do with the car. My RSX, which is pretty much rated the same, is more than sufficient for my liking. It goes when I want it to go. While I have not driven a FR-S/BRZ, i have a feeling it won't be too sluggish. Of course, if you're coming from a car with 300+ whp, then it will be sluggish.

Mike Sino · 06-03-2012, 12:00 AM

I test drove the AT FRS and it felt very sluggish to me

Surge101 · 06-03-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sino

I test drove the AT FRS and it felt very sluggish to me

That's not good to hear... I will be going manual, hopefully that has more life to it...

feldy · 06-03-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Sino

I test drove the AT FRS and it felt very sluggish to me

Did you drive with out the nannies on and in sport mode? Thats where the fun is.

Sportsguy83 · 06-03-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Surge101

Oh, i'm still waiting for them to arrive here. I do have an appointment to test drive the FRS on monday though.

What dealer are you getting the test drive from?

Surge101 · 06-03-2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83

What dealer are you getting the test drive from?

Hollywood Scion.

Spaceywilly · 06-03-2012, 12:10 AM

I test drove an MT today and it felt a lot torquier than my 02 WRX at low RPMs. I didn't get a chance to wring it out since it wasn't broken in yet but even keeping it below 4k and just blasting around the back roads by my dealer I thought it was great, but that's just me. I defintiely prefer the power delivery of the BRZ to my WRX, even if it is less power you don't have to wait for it like you do in the WRX so it feels faster. If you want straight line speed it doesn't have it but it seems to have the perfect power and delivery for twisty back roads.

ashtray · 06-03-2012, 12:13 AM

^^^What he said. I was surprised how much power it had compared to what I expected. Haven't had it over 5k yet, but it just wants to run!

The WRX takes off around 3,200rpms.

Mike Sino · 06-03-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by feldy

Did you drive with out the nannies on and in sport mode? Thats where the fun is.

I did try with the auto/manual mode and it was a little bit better, but as for the power it felt a little bit faster than my sentra which only has 127 or so hp. It handled great and I liked how it was so low to the ground and the lower point of view.

Vracer111 · 06-03-2012, 12:20 AM

Almost full level torque output at just over 2000 rpm and willing to rev motor = not sluggish...and good fuel economy. And don't forget the vehicle weight component to go with the power... the handling alone is the antithesis of sluggish...

Spocktaculous · 06-03-2012, 12:24 AM

Watched a few videos from NOLA raceway with professional driver taking turns at 100 mph. I think any sluggishness will be on hills but the handling should compensate for the lack of power.

Just my two cents.

06-02-2012, 11:51 PM	#1
Surge101 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2005 Mazda6 Location: Miami Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So... is it sluggish? The primary concern for me, and I am sure countless others when the 200HP was announced, is will the car feel sluggish and/or underpowered. Now that some of you have your mits on them, let's answer that question.

06-03-2012, 12:00 AM	#5
Mike Sino Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 13' Subaru BRZ Location: Yay Area Posts: 44 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I test drove the AT FRS and it felt very sluggish to me __________________

06-03-2012, 12:10 AM	#10
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I test drove an MT today and it felt a lot torquier than my 02 WRX at low RPMs. I didn't get a chance to wring it out since it wasn't broken in yet but even keeping it below 4k and just blasting around the back roads by my dealer I thought it was great, but that's just me. I defintiely prefer the power delivery of the BRZ to my WRX, even if it is less power you don't have to wait for it like you do in the WRX so it feels faster. If you want straight line speed it doesn't have it but it seems to have the perfect power and delivery for twisty back roads. __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

06-02-2012, 11:55 PM	#2
quik1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Bugatti Veyron Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 141 Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why not test drive and see for yourself?

06-02-2012, 11:58 PM	#3
Surge101 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2005 Mazda6 Location: Miami Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh, i'm still waiting for them to arrive here. I do have an appointment to test drive the FRS on monday though.

06-03-2012, 12:00 AM	#4
Chee-Hu Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 964 Thanks: 360 Thanked 323 Times in 221 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I guess it depends on what you intend to do with the car. My RSX, which is pretty much rated the same, is more than sufficient for my liking. It goes when I want it to go. While I have not driven a FR-S/BRZ, i have a feeling it won't be too sluggish. Of course, if you're coming from a car with 300+ whp, then it will be sluggish.

06-03-2012, 12:13 AM	#11
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	^^^What he said. I was surprised how much power it had compared to what I expected. Haven't had it over 5k yet, but it just wants to run! The WRX takes off around 3,200rpms.

06-03-2012, 12:24 AM	#14
Spocktaculous Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: California Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Watched a few videos from NOLA raceway with professional driver taking turns at 100 mph. I think any sluggishness will be on hills but the handling should compensate for the lack of power. Just my two cents.

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