Thrust/pillowball mount bearing clunk while steering - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

VacantSky · 10-15-2014, 10:43 PM

Creaking noise from suspension whilst turning the steering wheel. My ball joints look good. My end links are but 10,000 miles old. ISC coilovers about 10,000 miles old. Suspend the car to get in the wheel well to take a better look, now there's no load on the wheels to replicate the noise. I've lubed all the bushings, even sprayed lube all over the spring perches.

Saw the factory strut braces were someone elses problem. Torqued down, noise persists. It's gradually getting worse and it's embarrassing to be honest. It's to the point where you can hear it from a decent distance away with the engine running and I get looks like my car is a POS.

recorded here:

[ame]http://youtu.be/QN_Co44TQbI[/ame]

Ideas? I'm going to pull it into our back bay at work tonight and have a go at it again. I'm fed up with it.

(title edit to show up in search results)

civdaddy · 10-15-2014, 10:56 PM

Sounds like a spring to me. Either it's not seated right or it broke. Probably broke since you had them coil overs on for a little while.

Dipstik-sportech · 10-15-2014, 10:58 PM

Sounds like an upper strut mount bearing dying

civdaddy · 10-15-2014, 10:59 PM

^ yeah that makes more sense.

VacantSky · 10-15-2014, 11:02 PM

yeah I don't think a spring going bad after 10k is really going to happen. I'll have to contact ISC, these should still be under warranty. I'll pull my left strut out at work and see if it is the bearings.

bumppinKota · 10-15-2014, 11:06 PM

I agree with dipstik. Let us know how it turns out.

VacantSky · 10-17-2014, 05:47 AM

Turns out it was the pillowball mount bearings. They were FILTHY dirty. The race is scored up pretty decent. I cleaned and regreased with aircraft wheel bearing grease - I'm airforce and happen to work in a shop where we work on landing gear and flight controls, and as a side job we do wheel and tire shop too. So we clean and repack bearings when they come up as well as build up the wheel and tire assembly.

I'm going to try and persue ISC for some new race's and bearings under warranty, so wish me luck. They've been helpful so far.

ssyed · 01-21-2015, 02:14 AM

sorry to revive an old thread. I'm having this same noise on my STOCK suspension. Any idea what it could be?

stokeless · 04-09-2015, 01:59 AM

can anyone update? I am having the same issue/noise. I do too have ISC coilovers. about 800 miles

ssyed · 04-09-2015, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stokeless

can anyone update? I am having the same issue/noise. I do too have ISC coilovers. about 800 miles

I ended up solving my issue. I was running the end links that came with my coils. The endinks gave up during winter. I figured this out by taking out the end links and testing to see if the bolt was moving at all. And it wasn't. So I put in some lithium grease, worked for 2 weeks and then other end links started giving the same issue so I just got fed up and went back to stock end links. If u can't go to stock end links just buy whiteline end links or something.

stokeless · 04-09-2015, 09:03 AM

I will take a look. My stock end links are too long though.

stokeless · 04-09-2015, 11:52 AM

.... I drove the car out of the garage this morning and heard the noise when turning but while driving in the rain, after several mins it went away.... what is the deal... is it by endlinks or pillowball mounts. I will jack the car up later to inspect. was is happening to you?

jimmillion · 06-03-2015, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssyed

sorry to revive an old thread. I'm having this same noise on my STOCK suspension. Any idea what it could be?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokeless

can anyone update? I am having the same issue/noise. I do too have ISC coilovers. about 800 miles

Did both of your creaking finally stop after replacing the endlinks?

My car is still stock everything but I have the exact sound as the video. I took it in to the dealer to have a look and all they could suggest was their $300 brake service to fix it.. so no to that.

I'll check the endlinks this weekend myself, but any advice?

ssyed · 06-04-2015, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmillion

Did both of your creaking finally stop after replacing the endlinks?

My car is still stock everything but I have the exact sound as the video. I took it in to the dealer to have a look and all they could suggest was their $300 brake service to fix it.. so no to that.

I'll check the endlinks this weekend myself, but any advice?

Yes I did fix it. It was the end link. You can buy oem end links from Toyota/Subaru for like $30

I'm currently running white line adjustable end links. No issues at all.

If the noise is exactly as in the video, must be the end links. Take the end link out and see if the bolt moves freely, if it's stuck and doesn't move freely, the grease most likely dried up/came out of the rubber. You can try to put the grease inside and see if it does anything.

10-15-2014, 10:43 PM	#1
VacantSky The Angry Brit Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 1991 E30 318iS Location: NM Posts: 424 Thanks: 148 Thanked 361 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thrust/pillowball mount bearing clunk while steering Creaking noise from suspension whilst turning the steering wheel. My ball joints look good. My end links are but 10,000 miles old. ISC coilovers about 10,000 miles old. Suspend the car to get in the wheel well to take a better look, now there's no load on the wheels to replicate the noise. I've lubed all the bushings, even sprayed lube all over the spring perches. Saw the factory strut braces were someone elses problem. Torqued down, noise persists. It's gradually getting worse and it's embarrassing to be honest. It's to the point where you can hear it from a decent distance away with the engine running and I get looks like my car is a POS. recorded here: [ame]http://youtu.be/QN_Co44TQbI[/ame] Ideas? I'm going to pull it into our back bay at work tonight and have a go at it again. I'm fed up with it. (title edit to show up in search results) Last edited by VacantSky; 10-17-2014 at 05:44 AM.

10-15-2014, 10:58 PM	#3
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like an upper strut mount bearing dying __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

10-15-2014, 11:06 PM	#6
bumppinKota Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: FRS!!! Location: Colorado Posts: 202 Thanks: 262 Thanked 65 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Okay this is really starting to piss me off I agree with dipstik. Let us know how it turns out. Last edited by bumppinKota; 10-15-2014 at 11:22 PM.

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10-15-2014, 10:56 PM	#2
civdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Slow Location: U.S. Posts: 261 Thanks: 48 Thanked 134 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like a spring to me. Either it's not seated right or it broke. Probably broke since you had them coil overs on for a little while.

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civdaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Slow Location: U.S. Posts: 261 Thanks: 48 Thanked 134 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ yeah that makes more sense.

10-15-2014, 11:02 PM	#5
VacantSky The Angry Brit Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 1991 E30 318iS Location: NM Posts: 424 Thanks: 148 Thanked 361 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yeah I don't think a spring going bad after 10k is really going to happen. I'll have to contact ISC, these should still be under warranty. I'll pull my left strut out at work and see if it is the bearings.

10-17-2014, 05:47 AM	#7
VacantSky The Angry Brit Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 1991 E30 318iS Location: NM Posts: 424 Thanks: 148 Thanked 361 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Turns out it was the pillowball mount bearings. They were FILTHY dirty. The race is scored up pretty decent. I cleaned and regreased with aircraft wheel bearing grease - I'm airforce and happen to work in a shop where we work on landing gear and flight controls, and as a side job we do wheel and tire shop too. So we clean and repack bearings when they come up as well as build up the wheel and tire assembly. I'm going to try and persue ISC for some new race's and bearings under warranty, so wish me luck. They've been helpful so far.

01-21-2015, 02:14 AM	#8
ssyed Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2013 Frs Location: Toronto Posts: 166 Thanks: 77 Thanked 65 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	sorry to revive an old thread. I'm having this same noise on my STOCK suspension. Any idea what it could be?

04-09-2015, 01:59 AM	#9
stokeless Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2020 BRZ PP Silver Location: MN Posts: 110 Thanks: 41 Thanked 46 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	can anyone update? I am having the same issue/noise. I do too have ISC coilovers. about 800 miles

04-09-2015, 09:03 AM	#11
stokeless Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2020 BRZ PP Silver Location: MN Posts: 110 Thanks: 41 Thanked 46 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I will take a look. My stock end links are too long though.

04-09-2015, 11:52 AM	#12
stokeless Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2020 BRZ PP Silver Location: MN Posts: 110 Thanks: 41 Thanked 46 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	.... I drove the car out of the garage this morning and heard the noise when turning but while driving in the rain, after several mins it went away.... what is the deal... is it by endlinks or pillowball mounts. I will jack the car up later to inspect. was is happening to you?

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