Proper drifting settings - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

subiestyle · 09-22-2014, 03:21 AM

What is the hooning technique for just busting donuts and drifting in general you run?

Teseo · 09-22-2014, 07:58 AM

And old FR car

Tcoat · 09-22-2014, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Manji

Pull the abs fuse. Both of your options above will still interfere.

Can you explain more in how they still interfere? (Not sarcastic! I really would like more info).

TylerLieberman · 09-22-2014, 10:12 AM

Pull the fuse. Gets rid of all the driving aids and won't apply the brakes in a panic situation.

I hate any type of aid, including ABS for drifting.

tennisfreak · 09-22-2014, 11:17 AM

Pulling fuses and pedal dance is overkill for just wanting to drift around for fun.

Holding the trac button works just fine.

mav1178 · 09-22-2014, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manji

Pull the abs fuse. Both of your options above will still interfere.

Not true. I am able to do plenty of slides and manji with just pedal dance.

-alex

8R6 · 09-22-2014, 01:37 PM

wet the ground with water.

mav1178 · 09-22-2014, 03:10 PM

With only pedal dance:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGwnf2tyDPA"]BRZ drifting @ Vegas Drift 05.30.14 - YouTube[/ame]

-alex

STV3 · 09-22-2014, 03:14 PM

Pedal dance. With just holding the trac button for 5 secs you can't use the brake and gas pedal at the same time.

Frishkorn · 09-22-2014, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STV3

Pedal dance. With just holding the trac button for 5 secs you can't use the brake and gas pedal at the same time.

Why not?

STV3 · 09-22-2014, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Why not?

As a safety feature it cuts power to the engine.

Frishkorn · 09-22-2014, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STV3

As a safety feature it cuts power to the engine.

Cool just a genuine question, hadn't heard that before. This apply to both hand and foot brakes? I only ask because this is my first stick and now that I've got rev match down shifting handled, I was getting ready to learn heel-toe techniques.

STV3 · 09-22-2014, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Cool just a genuine question, hadn't heard that before. This apply to both hand and foot brakes? I only ask because this is my first stick and now that I've got rev match down shifting handled, I was getting ready to learn heel-toe techniques.

Yeah I learned one night messing around in a parking lot that this happens. So I stopped, did the pedal dance, and boom no more cutting out while using the gas and brake pedal simultaneously.

And you don't want to be on the gas while pulling the hand brake BTW. You don't want the trans engaged to the engine at all while pulling the handbrake for that matter.

Manji · 09-22-2014, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Can you explain more in how they still interfere? (Not sarcastic! I really would like more info).

I explained it in another thread a few months ago under my previous account (diss7) but the nanny police had a whinge at how dangerous it is driving the car without any aids or abs. My car has 16,000kms on it, almost all of it has been without the fuse in place. I enjoy the car more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Pulling fuses and pedal dance is overkill for just wanting to drift around for fun.

Holding the trac button works just fine.

Depends on what you're trying to do. Those settings allow some oversteer, but will still cut in if you really dial the angle on.

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Not true. I am able to do plenty of slides and manji with just pedal dance.

-alex

As above. It will allow oversteer, but not big oversteer. Your video, the first slide would've engaged something, you just mihght not have felt it. If you looked down at your dash, the naughty light most likely flashed. On your other slides, the angle was minimal so it let you get away with it. Try some runs with your current settings, then with the fuse removed; if you have a good feel for the car you'll notice the difference, it'll carry speed better in high angle situations, it'll feel good, and then you'll realise that with the fuse in place, it is applying the rear brakes with higher angle.

I tested this exhaustively when I first got the car. Everyone said that pedal dance was all aids off except abs, but my experience was that there's still something that will cut in at high angle.

Don't ask me the technical reasoning, because I don't know. All I know is what I experienced, and I also know that the other drift guys I talk to have had similar experiences and don't run the abs fuse either.

Here's some vids of me holding the car on full lock through a few sections, all in 3rd gear. Even with pedal dance setting, it would panic at this lock, and it also didn't like lock to lock switches. With the fuse removed it feels like a normal FR car; that's why I never put it back in.

[ame]http://youtu.be/4tw7V20iy8M[/ame]

[ame]http://youtu.be/k0Hgq_kFj44[/ame]

[ame]http://youtu.be/j1upheg_q1Q[/ame]

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09-22-2014, 03:21 AM	#1
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